From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Samuel Banya" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Poll: best hackable window manager or DE for Emacs-loving freedom activists Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2021 09:48:51 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87fssbiicx.fsf@disroot.org> <87pmrfbh27.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="7173"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Cyrus-JMAP/3.5.0-alpha0-1369-gd055fb5e7c-fm-20211018.002-gd055fb5e To: "Emanuel Berg" Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 05 14:56:07 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mizhP-0001ez-KL for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 05 Nov 2021 14:56:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52330 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mizhO-0003ee-7f for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 05 Nov 2021 09:56:06 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58806) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mizam-0004gX-A8 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Nov 2021 09:49:18 -0400 Original-Received: from wout2-smtp.messagingengine.com ([64.147.123.25]:60905) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mizak-0002kd-QB for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Nov 2021 09:49:16 -0400 Original-Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.internal [10.202.2.43]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DC1D3201A17 for ; Fri, 5 Nov 2021 09:49:13 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from imap49 ([10.202.2.99]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 05 Nov 2021 09:49:13 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fastmail.com; h= mime-version:message-id:in-reply-to:references:date:from:to :subject:content-type; s=fm1; bh=tj83fXNsFqF77DebV9+zB77MxV8y4qb FIA5n/Nzx3OY=; b=mMRkMniE0uW5bfM4+Szz/AtWg9wBaUbDp+mMt7K4ymitlti aTaQgYhY4NXP4C5ddtOTEjNRlVe7TF59f84dZNUHgnwuYQ2C8R1pf36Kl1PrZmgh aTXu0NAWo+sRoy9dMDDFazGFovzE77k5pkaqwglVIxJWxNkXsKKxBzbJ/aBXAE4a XK6YsQfc+tugnIRTuV5n4+TYDO7KorOCU9hfcHedEgbV7CJB2x8yZzFtfPXVLAmw 80ceNCRhrJRFSM5I2BjWX3URKDPMXko3ciQz4kJpZQIC13YrxABfw/RguU31un4u XcgFSAGTw6Kjx8p7Cw3Uwe7IGi2QZOrnaJQN9rA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-proxy :x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; bh=tj83fX NsFqF77DebV9+zB77MxV8y4qbFIA5n/Nzx3OY=; b=ZT7dC2e6LMBZOTXaU3bT3k VSyTFqMPTwLFr8tYUATsi+TBqBjqAKGVBa6YFTUDKxGs0FX3k5I2aY4tkYCUwv10 gj2w4md08uMAyufOBERi6jn5PrJwUHuKDCvl9hIZUJSasGF6O+I6fReDiWnY5lQs DS7gX7N48iH5GMod0Ge/2mzlzXyXRXPguRtFl2jSQZxwASILsyXC/zWT7oYVLPd5 +yusWP8dObF5oy7t1zWetbshoAi4W2ucRaHYQGsLF0bZrv5pH9rVDjNrVmOt62pr MlfE333WXrULpgb6+7fneW1TMLvqdvecQB2xPOwCjivMRA8sitjLfxpL9LT4kVyQ == X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvuddrtdeigdehhecutefuodetggdotefrodftvf curfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfghnecu uegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecunecujfgurhepofgfggfkjghffffhvffutgesrgdtre erreertdenucfhrhhomhepfdfurghmuhgvlhcuuegrnhihrgdfuceoshgsrghnhigrsehf rghsthhmrghilhdrtghomheqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepvddufeeghfeuieeitdffhf fghefhgfelleffhfdtffeutdffteeivedtvdejieeinecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgep tdenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomhepshgsrghnhigrsehfrghsthhmrghilhdrtg homh X-ME-Proxy: Original-Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 501) id E562EF60069; Fri, 5 Nov 2021 09:49:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface In-Reply-To: <87pmrfbh27.fsf@yahoo.com> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=64.147.123.25; envelope-from=sbanya@fastmail.com; helo=wout2-smtp.messagingengine.com X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:134379 Archived-At: Gnome is probably the worst DE I have ever used in my entire life. Not only is it just bloated, but it just wants to be MacOSX so badly, and I don't even like MacOSX that much and prefer Linux. I would stay away honestly. On Thu, Nov 4, 2021, at 8:08 PM, Po Lu wrote: > "Jorge P. de Morais Neto" > writes: > > > I have now reconsidered---I want a hackable keyboard-driven WM or DE. > > I'll keep GNOME installed as plan B for difficulties with the hacker WM. > > Also, once in a while I will use GNOME just to preserve useful knowledge > > for assisting unskilled users. > > Is there any particular reason GNOME doesn't suit your needs? GNOME is > hackable, through shell extensions and also Mutter plugins, is part of > the GNU project, and is in my experience more solid than most of the > alternatives you mentioned in your poll. > > Thanks. > >