From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Rusi Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: A guide on setting up C/C++ development environment for Emacs Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2014 22:39:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: References: <513ad0e2-f7f4-484c-b17b-7c94a8c2fc7a@googlegroups.com> <8738chaieo.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87tx4x9353.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87ppfl91ft.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87lhq98zoy.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87ha0x8xbh.fsf@wanadoo.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1409204430 962 80.91.229.3 (28 Aug 2014 05:40:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 05:40:30 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 28 07:40:22 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XMsRW-0007gN-DX for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 07:40:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34657 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XMsRW-00037O-0m for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 01:40:18 -0400 X-Received: by 10.236.126.103 with SMTP id a67mr1141041yhi.4.1409204357071; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 22:39:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.50.39.113 with SMTP id o17mr65934igk.14.1409204356954; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 22:39:16 -0700 (PDT) Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!i13no3757469qae.1!news-out.google.com!aw9ni2igc.0!nntp.google.com!r2no8900364igi.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=59.95.17.164; posting-account=mBpa7woAAAAGLEWUUKpmbxm-Quu5D8ui Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 59.95.17.164 User-Agent: G2/1.0 Injection-Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 05:39:16 +0000 Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:207177 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:99453 Archived-At: On Thursday, August 28, 2014 9:59:32 AM UTC+5:30, =D3scar Fuentes wrote: > Rusi writes: > [snip] > > Personally I often find FLOSS folks at least as dishonest as the corpor= ate types > > [No surprise, given that human beings are the same...] On second thought I'd tone that down - "at least as dishonest" to "just as = dishonest" And then it directly and trivially follows from "human beings are human bei= ngs" > Completely agree. The cause of the dishonesty varies, through. The FLOSS > folks tend to think "what is good for me must be good for everybody > else, and those who think different are idiots." Also, they put more > value on following group thinking than on doing cold assessments, even > on those matters that can be assesed on objective terms. BTW, this is > characteristic of religious behavior (or religious behavior is just > another expression of those attitudes.) Sorry I cant let that pass without a protest! In my experience the scientific types are more bigoted than the religious ones. As an antidote to bigotry - which is probably what you mean by 'religious behavior' - I recommend the following words of Nagarjuna: | Everything is real and is not real, | Both real and not real, | Neither real nor not real. | This is Lord Buddha's teaching. About group-think: Yes its not nice. But oftentimes very necessary. Here is something I wrote on the python-list just yesterday about why one should choose git over other VCSes. | In modern society we are part users, part masters. It may be 99% user | 1% master if one is super-intelligent versatile etc -- renaissance men. | =20 | For us more ordinary folk it is more like 99.99% vs 0.01% | Eg I dont know how to repair the car I drive, build the roads they run on= , | a frigging clue about the internals of the utilities (electricity/water..= .) | I consume etc. Heck this is even true of computers -- the SMPS? the Disk= ? | =20 | Likewise versioning systems. | We need to use them. We dont need to master all the details | and possibilities. | =20 | Git has won the battle -- maybe because of the mystique around the | name 'Torvalds', maybe for sound technical reasons. It doesn't matter. | If you have better things in your life than becoming a phd in versioning, | I'd say flow with the tide and switch to git=20