From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nurullah Akkaya Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: How use keybindings in term mode? Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 18:24:01 +0200 Message-ID: References: <513c3261-7aa1-4087-8ce2-bff23a4d8db6@u18g2000pro.googlegroups.com> <8b4fbba2-409f-4aed-95a6-0cee4d896159@r10g2000prf.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd248fad72b7f0461c9bfa3 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1233419079 12682 80.91.229.12 (31 Jan 2009 16:24:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 16:24:39 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 31 17:25:52 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LTIfA-0006DA-48 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:25:44 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37835 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LTIdr-0004iV-N9 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 11:24:23 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LTIdY-0004iN-VR for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 11:24:05 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LTIdY-0004iA-Dn for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 11:24:04 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=36469 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LTIdY-0004i6-8Q for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 11:24:04 -0500 Original-Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.159]:43388) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LTIdX-0003Lv-Oi for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 11:24:04 -0500 Original-Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l27so281825fgb.30 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 08:24:01 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.86.52.6 with SMTP id z6mr1254780fgz.63.1233419041712; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 08:24:01 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <8b4fbba2-409f-4aed-95a6-0cee4d896159@r10g2000prf.googlegroups.com> X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:61799 Archived-At: --000e0cd248fad72b7f0461c9bfa3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Xah Lee wrote: > On Jan 30, 10:59 pm, "seber...@spawar.navy.mil" > wrote: > > "term" (term mode) is more like a real shell than "shell" > > > > I noticed you can't do certain keybindings in term mode. It is as if > > you lose all your Emacs key binding when you use term mode. > > > > Is there some way to find a happy medium between term and shell? > > In other words, more power than shell w/o losing so many keybindings > > like in term mode? > > > > chris > > there is a thing called Asking Too Much. Lol. > > there's "shell", and there's "term". (and there's "eshell" and > "terminal-emulator") > > each one is created to be optimal for some purposes. > > Sure, you can add your personal customization on top of any to give > your "happy middle". Though, unless you have a specific customization > question... there's no such as happy middle in the already 4 variants. > > my personal q is what's the diff between term and terminal-emulator... > never spend time on it. I'm very happy with just "shell". For any term > need, i switch to a "real" term emulator. > > Xah > =E2=88=91 http://xahlee.org/ > > =E2=98=84 > you can switch between term modes. using C-c c-j will put you in line mode where term is behaves like a buffer , then u can use C-c c-k to switch back to char mode. also if you have global set keys in your .emacs they will work. --000e0cd248fad72b7f0461c9bfa3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Xah Lee= <xahlee@gmail.com= > wrote:
On Jan 30, 10:59 pm, "sebe= r...@spawar.navy.mil"
<seber...@spawar.navy.mil> wrote:
> "term" (term mode) is more like a real shell than "shel= l"
>
> I noticed you can't do certain keybindings in term mode.  It = is as if
> you lose all your Emacs key binding when you use term mode.
>
> Is there some way to find a happy medium between term and shell?
> In other words, more power than shell w/o losing so many keybindings > like in term mode?
>
> chris

there is a thing called Asking Too Much. Lol.

there's "shell", and there's "term". (and there's "eshell" and<= br> "terminal-emulator")

each one is created to be optimal for some purposes.

Sure, you can add your personal customization on top of any to give
your "happy middle". Though, unless you have a specific customization
question... there's no such as happy middle in the already 4 variants.<= br>
my personal q is what's the diff between term and terminal-emulator...<= br> never spend time on it. I'm very happy with just "shell". For any term<= br> need, i switch to a "real" term emulator.

 Xah
=E2=88=91 http://xahlee.or= g/

=E2=98=84


you can switch between term modes. using C-c c-j= will put you in line mode where term is behaves like a buffer , then u can= use C-c c-k to switch back to char mode. also if you have global set = keys in your .emacs they will work.
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