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From: Barry Margolin <barry.margolin@level3.com>
Subject: Re: Is Emacs on Aqua crippleware or is it just broken?
Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 20:03:06 GMT	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <_rzta.16$J33.1318@paloalto-snr1.gtei.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: wzznm18yg2.fsf@nono.cs.uu.nl

In article <wzznm18yg2.fsf@nono.cs.uu.nl>,
Piet van Oostrum  <piet@cs.uu.nl> wrote:
>>>>>> bk_usenet@yahoo.co.uk (BK) (B) wrote:
>B> 4) HIG violations - quitting
>
>B> On a Mac, all applications *must* quit when "Quit" is selected in the
>B> applications main menu (the one that carries its name). Further,
>B> applications *must* quit when the user choses "Quit" from the menu in
>B> the application's dock item. Finally, Cmd-Q is the designated keyboard
>B> shortcut for quitting.
>
>The Emacs keybinding for quit is C-x C-q. The problem is that if you use
>the `standard' Mac keybindings you are non-standard with respect with
>other emacsen.

Can't you have both?  Does Emacs usurp the Command key for something else?

>B> 5) HIG violations - paste
>
>B> On a Mac, cut/copy/paste is Cmd-x/c/v. Emacs doesn't adhere to this,
>B> but in principle, this can be changed back to normal by defining
>B> keyboard macros.
>
>Same as above. The keybindings can be changed but then youhave to find
>alternatives for the rebound keys. On Windows there is a cua.el and some
>others that do this. It would be easy to adapt this to Mac style (Cmd-
>rather than Control-).

Again, can't you have both?  The standard Emacs key bindings use the
Control key, while the standard Macintosh shortcuts use the Command key, so
there shouldn't be any conflict.

>B> 6) Emacs keyboard shortcuts
>
>B> Most of the Emacs keyboard shortcuts don't work. Bug or feature?
>
>What do you mean?
>I can use all normal Emacs keyboard commands.

I wonder if the OP is confusing the Command and Control keys.

-- 
Barry Margolin, barry.margolin@level3.com
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  reply	other threads:[~2003-05-05 20:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-05-05  6:00 Is Emacs on Aqua crippleware or is it just broken? BK
2003-05-05 10:44 ` Piet van Oostrum
2003-05-05 20:03   ` Barry Margolin [this message]
2003-05-06  2:39     ` BK
2003-05-05 22:16   ` BK
2003-05-06 13:49     ` Piet van Oostrum
2003-05-07 15:09       ` BK
2003-05-05 10:45 ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2003-05-05 21:52   ` BK
2003-05-05 22:50     ` Niels Freimann
2003-05-06 11:05     ` Oliver Scholz
2003-05-07 18:02     ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2003-05-07 23:16       ` Emacs on Aqua (non-religious please) BK
2003-05-07 23:20         ` Barry Margolin
2003-05-08 12:07         ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2003-05-08 13:24           ` tristero
2003-05-08 14:40             ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2003-05-05 22:39   ` Is Emacs on Aqua crippleware or is it just broken? Henrik Enberg
2003-05-05 22:45     ` Barry Margolin
2003-05-06  2:03       ` tristero
2003-05-07 14:51         ` BK
2003-05-07 15:17           ` Barry Margolin
2003-05-07 23:48             ` BK
2003-05-08  2:16               ` David Eppstein
2003-05-08 19:39               ` Barry Margolin
2003-05-06  8:33 ` Oliver Scholz
2003-05-06 13:58   ` BK
2003-05-06 14:45     ` Jerry Kindall
2003-05-06 15:16       ` David Kastrup
2003-05-06 15:41       ` Barry Margolin
2003-05-07  2:11         ` Jerry Kindall
2003-05-07 16:15       ` BK
2003-05-07 16:40         ` Phil Stripling
2003-05-07 17:34         ` Oliver Scholz
2003-05-06 15:27     ` Oliver Scholz
2003-05-06 16:07       ` Oliver Scholz
     [not found]       ` <m2issoavgw.fsf@owlbear.local>
2003-05-06 18:01         ` Barry Margolin
2003-05-06 18:28           ` Andrew Choi
2003-05-06 18:57         ` Ajanta
2003-05-06 18:41           ` Oliver Scholz
2003-05-06 19:12           ` Phil Stripling
2003-05-07 12:05             ` BK
2003-05-07 12:23               ` David Kastrup
2003-05-07 17:38                 ` BK
2003-05-07 20:04                   ` Gilbert Harman
2003-05-07 11:35           ` BK
2003-05-07 12:09             ` David Kastrup
2003-05-07 21:16               ` Ajanta
2003-05-07 13:41             ` Alan Mackenzie
2003-05-07 19:28               ` BK
2003-05-07 21:39                 ` Ajanta
2003-05-08  1:05                   ` BK
2003-05-08  2:28                     ` Ajanta
2003-05-07 18:54             ` Suggestion to BK Ajanta
2003-05-07 11:01       ` Is Emacs on Aqua crippleware or is it just broken? BK
2003-05-07 11:18         ` Phillip Lord
2003-05-07 11:33         ` John Paul Wallington
2003-05-07 19:48           ` BK
2003-05-10 20:00             ` Kai Großjohann
2003-05-07 11:43         ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-05-07 13:27         ` Oliver Scholz
2003-05-07 20:04           ` BK
2003-05-08  7:18             ` Oliver Scholz
2003-05-08 19:42               ` Barry Margolin
2003-05-08 21:55                 ` Björn Lindström
     [not found]         ` <mailman.5689.1052308519.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-05-07 19:49           ` BK
     [not found] <mailman.5694.1052313577.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-05-07 14:00 ` David Kastrup
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-05-07 14:10 niels freimann
     [not found] <mailman.5712.1052338208.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-05-08  1:47 ` BK
2003-05-08  7:50   ` Rainer Joswig

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