From: <tomas@tuxteam.de>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Alist remaining empty
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2024 07:26:54 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZveTnlsqxOYLQ26D@tuxteam.de> (raw)
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On Fri, Sep 27, 2024 at 10:50:21PM +0000, Heime wrote:
> I have alist variable warn-alist, which I set to nil. I am supposed
> to push some alist examples if the values have not been added yet.
>
> But I find that with the following function, the warn-alist remains empty.
As it should. Please, please: learn about variables, variable scopes,
values. Otherwise, you're bound to stay in an endless loop.
I intersperse comments into your code:
;; Somewhere "outside", warn-alist has been defined. Or not.
;; We just don't know.
> (defun warn-test ()
>
> (interactive)
>
> (setq warn-alist nil)
;; Here, its value is set to nil (whatever its value was before).
;; Is it global? Buffer-local? Lexical? We don't know. We don't
;; know either whether it matters.
>
> (let ( (qwpanel warn-alist)
;; A new (probably lexical, but possibly dynamic) binding for
;; qwpanel is introduced: its value is set to the value of
;; warn-alist -- which is nil (see above)
>
> ;; Init flag to track if values have been added
> (already-added nil) )
>
> ;; If the alist is empty, add the cons data
> (unless qwpanel
> (setq already-added t))
;; Things are done in a somewhat roundabout way. In the conditional
;; above, we /know/ that qwpanel is nil, so already-added stays nil
>
> (unless already-added
;; this means we could replace here "unless already-added" by
;; "unless qwpanel", and then completely do away with it (a smart
;; compiler is going to do that for you anyway).
> (push (cons 'ques-string "Warning Message") qwpanel)
> (push (cons 'ques-number 42) qwpanel)
> (push (cons 'ques-symbol 'example-symbol) qwpanel)
> (push (cons 'ques-list '(1 2 3)) qwpanel)
> (push (cons 'ques-boolean t) qwpanel)
> (push (cons 'ques-nil nil) qwpanel)
> (push (cons 'ques-cons (cons 'nested "cell")) qwpanel)
> (push (cons 'ques-function #'print) qwpanel)) ))
;; and now, when leaving the (let ...) scope, you throw away your
;; qwpanel binding, and all of its value, for the garbage collector
;; to feast on it. Viewed "from the outside", which you haven't
;; shown to us, nothing, except possibly setting warn-alist to nil
;; has happened.
Working as designed, I'd say.
Cheers
--
tomás
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-09-28 5:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-09-27 22:50 Alist remaining empty Heime
2024-09-28 5:26 ` tomas [this message]
2024-09-28 9:11 ` Heime
2024-09-28 9:14 ` tomas
2024-09-28 15:22 ` Heime
2024-09-28 15:16 ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
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