From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Peter Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Third attempt Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2023 19:56:00 +0200 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="33922"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Corwin Brust Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 15 20:01:37 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qs5Qn-0008ei-GZ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 15 Oct 2023 20:01:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qs5Q5-0007fi-08; Sun, 15 Oct 2023 14:00:53 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qs5Q3-0007f6-Bo for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Oct 2023 14:00:51 -0400 Original-Received: from uucp.dinoex.org ([2a0b:f840::12]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qs5Q1-0003eG-Rl for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Oct 2023 14:00:51 -0400 Original-Received: from uucp.dinoex.org (uucp.dinoex.org [IPv6:2a0b:f840:0:0:0:0:0:12]) by uucp.dinoex.org (8.17.2/8.17.2) with ESMTPS id 39FI06gO007608 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 15 Oct 2023 20:00:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from pmc@citylink.dinoex.sub.org) Original-Received: (from uucp@localhost) by uucp.dinoex.org (8.17.2/8.17.2/Submit) with UUCP id 39FI06da007604; Sun, 15 Oct 2023 20:00:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from pmc@citylink.dinoex.sub.org) Original-Received: from disp.intra.daemon.contact (disp-e.intra.daemon.contact [IPv6:fd00:0:0:0:0:0:0:112]) by admn.intra.daemon.contact (8.17.1/8.17.1) with ESMTPS id 39FHwdd4041595 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 15 Oct 2023 19:58:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from pmc@citylink.dinoex.sub.org) Original-Received: from disp.intra.daemon.contact (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by disp.intra.daemon.contact (8.17.1/8.17.1) with ESMTPS id 39FHu149058705 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 15 Oct 2023 19:56:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from pmc@citylink.dinoex.sub.org) Original-Received: (from pmc@localhost) by disp.intra.daemon.contact (8.17.1/8.17.1/Submit) id 39FHu03Y058704; Sun, 15 Oct 2023 19:56:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from pmc@citylink.dinoex.sub.org) X-Authentication-Warning: disp.intra.daemon.contact: pmc set sender to pmc@citylink.dinoex.sub.org using -f Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Milter: Spamilter (Reciever: uucp.dinoex.org; Sender-ip: 0:0:2a0b:f840::; Sender-helo: uucp.dinoex.org; ) X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.4 (uucp.dinoex.org [IPv6:2a0b:f840:0:0:0:0:0:12]); Sun, 15 Oct 2023 20:00:09 +0200 (CEST) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a0b:f840::12; envelope-from=pmc@citylink.dinoex.sub.org; helo=uucp.dinoex.org X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:145293 Archived-At: On Sun, Oct 15, 2023 at 10:22:07AM -0500, Corwin Brust wrote: ! On Sun, Oct 15, 2023 at 10:00=E2=80=AFAM Peter wrote: !=20 ! > trying to post to the list ! > ! > ! Success! Hi, thanks for the confirmation. There is nowhere documented that posting only works when subscribed to the list, and, what is worse, that otherwise mails go into a black hole. The latter is really bad; all my mails require explicit DSN, they must either arrive or return, and simply throwing them away is a lack of due diligence. I had to send a testmail to "help-gnu-emac" in order to figure out that the mailer does actually run outside of regular business hours and is well able to send failure DSN...