From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Heime via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Advantage using mapc over dolist Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2024 18:05:04 +0000 Message-ID: References: <87zflevbwm.fsf@neko.mail-host-address-is-not-set> <87h67ku813.fsf@neko.mail-host-address-is-not-set> <87ed2ou65o.fsf@neko.mail-host-address-is-not-set> <87a5dcu5d5.fsf@neko.mail-host-address-is-not-set> <86ldww1yl3.fsf@gnu.org> <877c8gu0wv.fsf@neko.mail-host-address-is-not-set> <86iks01x7d.fsf@gnu.org> <874j3ktzv7.fsf@neko.mail-host-address-is-not-set> Reply-To: Heime Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="30164"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Eli Zaretskii , help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Tomas Hlavaty Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 03 19:05:47 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1tIXHP-0007gk-KW for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 03 Dec 2024 19:05:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tIXH0-0000hr-Cj; Tue, 03 Dec 2024 13:05:22 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tIXGu-0000hX-UW for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Dec 2024 13:05:18 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-4325.protonmail.ch ([185.70.43.25]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tIXGs-0000oe-Vt for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Dec 2024 13:05:16 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail3; t=1733249110; x=1733508310; bh=xhDV6VkoE+hGlYOk1OzXGgmZ0unCriXDTcpMVEkQIXU=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID:BIMI-Selector:List-Unsubscribe:List-Unsubscribe-Post; b=OFhoilvJpynSgHknCkDYQX89hm/0VrR38Xc+kjRy2DlB+XG/xSOEo4alBjjMjWO9J rDUYFvHerA+Z8+NYLgFA/QEu/Gu2g+tPjX65ALaMCbPtVzDX8+e6za2xCyXg3vDNDo BsaoI2ivr+vwRQfT+P3/rkyXMGVjLQEdck9Vg7qh5lkyM/WA335YGMEH1zfpBjj3GL jC3b6NonjM2gEkhjdlg0AlWZ6QAvVQiG+qQMsfj/AkmDOqa/1bXLv1XjImRmVw3Kd/ 3jS6pc4R4+m6ojjYFJgN98shlEmurWdHIUkh6bAywOGW3VkgAFpCqGvy53QzM3uSJI DFU13Zr8ij3PQ== In-Reply-To: <874j3ktzv7.fsf@neko.mail-host-address-is-not-set> Feedback-ID: 57735886:user:proton X-Pm-Message-ID: 50c0afb29cbb55bb2a38dd1813d1de1135897f59 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.70.43.25; envelope-from=heimeborgia@protonmail.com; helo=mail-4325.protonmail.ch X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_CERTIFIED_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:148550 Archived-At: Sent with Proton Mail secure email. On Wednesday, December 4th, 2024 at 5:55 AM, Tomas Hlavaty = wrote: > On Tue 03 Dec 2024 at 19:40, Eli Zaretskii eliz@gnu.org wrote: >=20 > > If your only gripe is about the names of cl-case and cl-ecase, then > > why mention pcase and cond*? they were not renamed and didn't come > > from CL. And why is it "a mess"? You've made abundantly clear that > > you didn't like the cl- names, why is there a need to add unrelated > > accusations? >=20 >=20 > in short, because people are directed to use pcase as the replacement > for case and pcase-exhaustive as replacement for ecase I agree. Everyone is aware about the historical discouragement about cl things, but we have no understanding if such discouragement is still releva= nt today. We need some certainty so we can adapt our code accordingly.