From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: editing a PDF [Re: emacs 30.5.0 editing epub] Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2023 12:36:22 +0300 Message-ID: References: <877cvhqo9p.fsf@web.de> <4a7a0baf-677b-118c-fa6c-e50d054800e7@posteo.de> <87o7osp4ck.fsf@web.de> <704a63ef-c56d-f892-1e3f-9ee0f884b038@mousecar.com> <87y1nsmgwz.fsf@web.de> <0e6c9b8a-b70f-d244-c031-68c0c58dca86@mousecar.com> <87v8iur4lp.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87sfdwr5b2.nntm@hhbnwe.viijngy.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="1520"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/2.2.9+54 (af2080d) (2022-11-21) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Bob Newell Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 23 10:39:31 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pfHPu-0000E7-Q9 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 23 Mar 2023 10:39:30 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pfHPS-0000Z2-Sj; Thu, 23 Mar 2023 05:39:02 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pfHPR-0000Yp-1E for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Mar 2023 05:39:01 -0400 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pfHPP-0008Tm-C9 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Mar 2023 05:39:00 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:197.239.14.84]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 00000000000F5CEB.00000000641C1E32.000010D2; Thu, 23 Mar 2023 02:38:57 -0700 Mail-Followup-To: Bob Newell , help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87sfdwr5b2.nntm@hhbnwe.viijngy.net> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:143094 Archived-At: * Bob Newell [2023-03-22 21:49]: > I get sent PDFs all the time and it's often frustrating. > However most of the time I need the text, not necessarily the > formatting. For that, there are various PDF to text > converters which work to some degree (not so great with > multi-column text for the most part). Following references may be helpful to some people thinking to use multi-column text in Emacs: There is (info "(emacs) Two-Column") in Emacs manual. Example output produced by using RCD Paps packag for Emacs: https://gnu.support/files/emacs/packages/rcd-paps/2023/03/2023-03-23/2023-03-23-12:27:05.pdf GNU Emacs package: rcd-paps.el: https://gnu.support/gnu-emacs/packages/GNU-Emacs-package-rcd-paps-el-76862.html Any Emacs printing can produce such pages. > I realize this doesn't at all address the original question > about editing PDFs in the true sense of editing. But in a lot > of cases text extraction may be good enough, depending on your > purpose. LibreaOffice Draw -- open PDF file and you will see you can edit many things. Okular -- you can annotate and insert text Scribus and Xournal -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/