From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Enhancing ELisp for AI Work Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2024 00:35:50 +0300 Message-ID: References: <7290780.2375960.1734348492938.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <7290780.2375960.1734348492938@mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="15388"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/2.2.12 (2023-09-09) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: =?utf-8?B?VG9tw6HFoQ==?= Petit Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 17 22:37:11 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1tNfFf-0003pt-7P for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 17 Dec 2024 22:37:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tNfF7-0003eE-O9; Tue, 17 Dec 2024 16:36:37 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tNfF5-0003dq-VQ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Dec 2024 16:36:35 -0500 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tNfF4-0005gk-9j for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Dec 2024 16:36:35 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:197.239.12.179]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 000000000001BF33.000000006761EEC0.000AABCC; Tue, 17 Dec 2024 14:35:59 -0700 Mail-Followup-To: =?utf-8?B?VG9tw6HFoQ==?= Petit , help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_CERTIFIED_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:148869 Archived-At: * Tomáš Petit [2024-12-17 14:42]: > I clearly haven't done my due diligence because I wasn't aware of those cool > little projects. It certainly looks fun, not sure if Emacs Lisp will ever > attract enough attention, although I would personally hope for Lisp (and its > derivatives) to have a glorious return. But one thing not to forget, let's not minimize the actual artificial intelligence programmed over years with various programming languages. A probabilit text generator is bullshit generator. It cares zero of the truth, it is program. Far from the real "intelligence". ChatGPT is bullshit | Ethics and Information Technology https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10676-024-09775-5 LLM have tremendous uses, they are useful, and there is no doubt about it. But calling them "intelligence" and diminishing other types of software is too much. -- Jean Louis ALL COMPUTER PROGRAMS EMBODY ASPECTS OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE