From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Including AI into Emacs Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2024 00:14:03 +0300 Message-ID: References: <61ffb7417fcfe6fc0c1291aa53d1398b.support1@rcdrun.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="12663"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/2.2.12 (2023-09-09) Cc: Emacs Tangents To: Basile Starynkevitch Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 06 23:11:59 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1tJgYJ-00036F-DI for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2024 23:11:59 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tJgXZ-000344-RM; Fri, 06 Dec 2024 17:11:13 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tJgXY-00033p-Az for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2024 17:11:12 -0500 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tJgXW-0004JI-GK for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2024 17:11:11 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:41.75.190.82]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 0000000000082019.000000006753767C.003B9A07; Fri, 06 Dec 2024 15:11:07 -0700 Mail-Followup-To: Basile Starynkevitch , Emacs Tangents Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_CERTIFIED_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:148637 Archived-At: * Basile Starynkevitch [2024-12-06 22:14]: > On of the issues is to define what is an open source AI system. I like to use "Free Software" instead of "Open Source" as many times Open Source is not really free, so there are differences. But one has to distinguish it with licenses and research to verify if anything open source is really free. There are Large Language Models that are allegedly free software, it requires research. Here is one list of it: eugeneyan/open-llms: 📋 A list of open LLMs available for commercial use. https://github.com/eugeneyan/open-llms > Is https://clipsrules.net/ an AI system? (On Linux you could run it > from GNU emacs)? That sounds like US government financed software and such is always released to public domain if I am not mistaken. There is MIT No Attribution license in the documentation. > Can https://github.com/RefPerSys/RefPerSys be extended (or the basis > of) to become an AI system? It is GPLv3+ licensed? I think yes, why not. > Both software are open source... See also http://refpersys.org/  I wish to see use for me personally, managing documents, understanding my workflows, implementing them in code, like that. -- Jean Louis