From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Including AI into Emacs Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2024 01:26:25 +0300 Message-ID: References: <61ffb7417fcfe6fc0c1291aa53d1398b.support1@rcdrun.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="30190"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/2.2.12 (2023-09-09) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Basile Starynkevitch Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 06 23:27:06 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1tJgmw-0007iW-7H for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2024 23:27:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tJgmP-0000Ee-MI; Fri, 06 Dec 2024 17:26:33 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tJgmO-0000EA-41 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2024 17:26:32 -0500 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tJgmM-0006G9-Dd for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2024 17:26:31 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:41.75.190.82]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 0000000000082016.0000000067537A14.003B9F2D; Fri, 06 Dec 2024 15:26:27 -0700 Mail-Followup-To: Basile Starynkevitch , help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_CERTIFIED_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:148640 Archived-At: * Basile Starynkevitch [2024-12-06 22:12]: > On of the issues is to define what is an open source AI system. Without referring to common definitions, all of computing can be considered artificial intelligence as it extends the mind functions and memory of humans. It is just a matter of development level to determine how far it may go. At first, it might handle tasks like invoices. It could ask the user every day, "Is there any invoice to enter?" If the user answers "Yes," the computer could then request the details. On the next level, the computer may not need to ask the user but could, through observation, understand that an invoice needs to be entered. For example, it could recognize a customer's face through a camera, identify the customer, and automatically generate an invoice. All Emacs programs and essentially all programs in the world are forms of artificial intelligence. But now there are fantastic new developments where computers can recognize pictures, generate new images through imagination, create videos, correct text, and more easily understand what we think. This is what we have been striving for. And common users now can use it without tedious programming, and that is huge advance. It is like jumping from shell usage of Internet to graphics browser. That happened in past, and is now happening with the AI accessibility for all. Of course, the notorious Emacs psychotherapist is predating all of the modern chatbots. -- Jean Louis