From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Advantage using mapc over dolist Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2024 09:13:22 +0300 Message-ID: References: <87zflevbwm.fsf@neko.mail-host-address-is-not-set> <87frn5lswe.fsf@neko.mail-host-address-is-not-set> <875xo1lr1q.fsf@neko.mail-host-address-is-not-set> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="23376"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/2.2.12 (2023-09-09) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Tomas Hlavaty Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 03 07:14:52 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1tIMBQ-0005wR-0h for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 03 Dec 2024 07:14:52 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tIMAs-0006uG-Cv; Tue, 03 Dec 2024 01:14:18 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tIMAq-0006u7-Vl for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Dec 2024 01:14:16 -0500 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tIMAp-0005dX-8R for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Dec 2024 01:14:16 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:41.75.174.232]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 0000000000081FDF.00000000674EA1B0.00346647; Mon, 02 Dec 2024 23:14:08 -0700 Mail-Followup-To: Tomas Hlavaty , help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <875xo1lr1q.fsf@neko.mail-host-address-is-not-set> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_CERTIFIED_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:148523 Archived-At: * Tomas Hlavaty [2024-12-03 00:21]: > On Mon 02 Dec 2024 at 23:50, Jean Louis wrote: > >> hmm, somebody renamed it to cl-ecase and cl-case > >> similar to flet -> cl-flet and labels -> cl-labels > >> what a shame > > > > I find it liberating. > > What do you mean? > Could you explain that? > > Emacs is switching to lexical scope and degraded two of the most lexical > scope related things to secodary citizens. I am an Emacs Lisp programmer, and all Common Lisp functions prefixed with `cl-` I find liberating in the sense that personally within Emacs Lisp I do not like mixing it because it is not Common Lisp. All my software was first in Common Lisp, I know it and use it every day, I am a heavy user of my own Common Lisp. But within Emacs, I like using Emacs Lisp pure—it is a personal choice. -- Jean Louis