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From: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
To: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>
Cc: goncholden <goncholden@protonmail.com>,
	Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Netiquette is way to go
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2022 10:43:29 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YqbqocAtxPTZkAyf@protected.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87h74pc9rj.fsf@yahoo.com>

* Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com> [2022-06-13 10:18]:
> Because you did not ask about automatic indentation.  From the point of
> view of everyone except you, you were asking how to adapt the Emacs
> Fortran indentation rules to your (legacy) code, and not how to disable
> automatic indentation.

How I see it: user did not express himself about "indentation" but
tried in his own words to explain what is happening and what is
desired.

We cannot expect of users new to Emacs to know what is
electric-indent-mode as that is too high expectation. I gave example
of indentation mentioned in other editors, Emacs does not offer
a menu item where indentation can be set.

We cannot tell to users "why you did not ask about
electric-indent-mode" as that means we have too high expectations.

We cannot even expect users to read the manual first before asking on
the mailing list for help. As by reading manual one would find out
that indentation is automatic.

I use Emacs long time, and I did not know that indentation is
automatic until I read the manual yesterday to find out about it. I
was under impression that I have set the indentation in my init.el and
forgot about it.

We can't have too high expectations on this mailing list. This is not
for experienced users only, not for developers, it is for "Help".

-- 
Jean

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-06-13  7:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 113+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-09 13:58 Spaces rather than tabs by a major mode hook goncholden via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-06-09 15:12 ` Yuri Khan
2022-06-09 15:30   ` goncholden
2022-06-09 15:46     ` Yuri Khan
2022-06-09 16:08       ` goncholden
2022-06-09 16:34         ` Yuri Khan
2022-06-10 23:17           ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-11  0:05             ` goncholden
2022-06-11  7:35               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-09 18:13     ` goncholden
2022-06-09 19:15       ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-06-09 19:16       ` Drew Adams
2022-06-09 19:24       ` Tassilo Horn
2022-06-09 19:40         ` goncholden
2022-06-09 19:54           ` Tassilo Horn
2022-06-10  5:39             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-10  5:46               ` goncholden
2022-06-10  6:08                 ` Po Lu
2022-06-10  6:11                   ` goncholden
2022-06-10  6:31                   ` tomas
2022-06-10  6:41                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-10  7:42                   ` goncholden
2022-06-10  7:50                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-10  8:31                       ` goncholden
2022-06-10 10:49                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-10 18:10                           ` goncholden
2022-06-10 19:33                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-10 19:40                               ` goncholden
2022-06-10 19:44                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-10 19:52                                   ` goncholden
2022-06-10 19:56                                     ` goncholden
2022-06-11  7:20                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-11  7:30                                         ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-11  7:57                                           ` tomas
2022-06-11  8:26                                             ` goncholden
2022-06-11 15:35                                             ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-11  7:19                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-11  8:17                                       ` goncholden
2022-06-11  8:40                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-11  8:57                                           ` goncholden
2022-06-11 10:10                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-11 10:20                                               ` goncholden
2022-06-11 10:33                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-11 11:15                                                   ` goncholden
2022-06-11 11:50                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-11 20:02                                                       ` goncholden
2022-06-12  2:24                                                         ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-06-12  3:16                                                           ` goncholden
2022-06-12  6:06                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-12  6:40                                                               ` goncholden
2022-06-12  7:02                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-12  7:49                                                                   ` goncholden
2022-06-12  8:06                                                                     ` Po Lu
2022-06-12  8:35                                                                       ` goncholden
2022-06-12  6:40                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-12  7:29                                                           ` goncholden
2022-06-12  6:53                                                         ` Po Lu
2022-06-12  7:06                                                           ` goncholden
2022-06-12  7:18                                                             ` Po Lu
2022-06-12  7:54                                                               ` goncholden
2022-06-12 18:13                                                             ` Netiquette is way to go Jean Louis
2022-06-12 23:25                                                               ` goncholden
2022-06-13  4:53                                                                 ` Jean Louis
2022-06-13  6:25                                                                   ` goncholden
2022-06-13  6:26                                                                   ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-13  7:17                                                                 ` Po Lu
2022-06-13  7:41                                                                   ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-13  7:43                                                                   ` Jean Louis [this message]
2022-06-13  9:18                                                                     ` goncholden
2022-06-13  9:29                                                                       ` Po Lu
2022-06-13 10:39                                                                         ` goncholden
2022-06-13 11:48                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-13 13:17                                                                         ` goncholden
2022-06-13 21:05                                                                         ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-14  4:43                                                                           ` tomas
2022-06-14 10:08                                                                             ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-13 15:42                                                                     ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-06-12  7:13                                                           ` Spaces rather than tabs by a major mode hook Po Lu
2022-06-12  7:29                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-12  8:29                                                               ` goncholden
2022-06-12  8:36                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-12  9:14                                                                   ` goncholden
2022-06-12  8:45                                                                 ` Po Lu
2022-06-12  9:02                                                                   ` goncholden
2022-06-12 18:21                                                               ` Jean Louis
2022-06-12 23:29                                                                 ` goncholden
2022-06-13  3:03                                                                 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-13  5:39                                                                   ` Jean Louis
2022-06-13  6:24                                                                     ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-13  6:33                                                                     ` goncholden
2022-06-13 15:17                                                                     ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-06-12 17:10                                                         ` Jean Louis
2022-06-12 20:18                                                           ` goncholden
2022-06-12 20:41                                                           ` goncholden
2022-06-12 22:42                                                             ` Jean Louis
2022-06-13  6:18                                                               ` goncholden
2022-06-13  6:18                                                               ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-13 15:17                                                               ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-06-13 11:55                                                         ` Andreas Röhler
2022-06-13 12:12                                                           ` goncholden
2022-06-11 10:39                                                 ` goncholden
2022-06-11 21:00                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-06-11 21:17                                                     ` goncholden
2022-06-11 21:36                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-06-11 21:56                                                         ` goncholden
2022-06-12  0:07                                                           ` goncholden
2022-06-12  0:19                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-06-12  0:35                                                               ` goncholden
2022-06-12  1:05                                                                 ` goncholden
2022-06-11  4:58             ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-11 14:53               ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-06-11 15:39                 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-10 23:03   ` Emanuel Berg

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