From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: DragonFlyBSD Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2022 17:03:12 +0300 Message-ID: References: <83tucvz53x.fsf@gnu.org> <87sfsecw2c.fsf@zoho.eu> <87r17wydgk.fsf@zoho.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="21919"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/2.2.0 (2022-02-12) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 21 15:08:18 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nM9MQ-0005Xr-B0 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 21 Feb 2022 15:08:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41980 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nM9MP-0001Eo-7b for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 21 Feb 2022 09:08:17 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:49592) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nM9JR-0007UE-LJ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Feb 2022 09:05:13 -0500 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:35869) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nM9JP-0006TD-LT for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Feb 2022 09:05:13 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:197.239.6.72]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 0000000000087C39.0000000062139C14.000043DE; Mon, 21 Feb 2022 07:05:08 -0700 Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87r17wydgk.fsf@zoho.eu> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -17 X-Spam_score: -1.8 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_SBL=0.141, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:136111 Archived-At: * Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor [2022-02-21 08:53]: > Jean Louis wrote: > > > What I like is system consistency, like what Debian has, > > that one can upgrade the system over and over again without > > reboot, and all things work. Uptime like 536 days or 966 > > days is what I have now on some computers with Debian. > > Yeah I've used Debian for a long time, I like it a lot but > don't say necessarily it is better than other distros. For me, I look from freedom viewpoint, I cannot recommend Debian as it will recommend non-free software to fellows. So I exclude non-free and use those FSF fully free distributions, sometimes self-made distribution for myself only. It's not that hard to build it yourself. > In particular, I think the package manager system and whole idea > installing stuff explicitely from the command line should be > replaced by a declarative system. It would have rollback features > and all, but that's not the most important thing, the most important > thing would be to have the system configurable and setup with > precision and ease in text files like you do everything else in > computing ... I don't like text files. I expect system to be very adjustable through user friendly menus, not text files. Yes, I would like something as registry or database with keys and values, something very firm and error prone. And on GUI I would be doing it with mouse. In fact I expect in 21st century that computer knows me enough, so that I do not need to adjust anything, when I install the system, it would ask me few questions and I would answer by voice, computer would set it up. Why I need to configure it in text files in 21st century, I don't know. -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/