From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Noob dumb question (extending emacs) Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2021 21:09:44 +0300 Message-ID: References: <87o87hnrpt.fsf@zoho.eu> <87y26kkuag.fsf@web.de> <87lf2izs3d.fsf@zoho.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="10178"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/2.0.7+183 (3d24855) (2021-05-28) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 24 20:12:59 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mehzO-0002Sx-C4 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 24 Oct 2021 20:12:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59696 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mehzM-0008Ny-Hg for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 24 Oct 2021 14:12:56 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34362) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mehxL-0006vw-IM for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Oct 2021 14:10:52 -0400 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:41759) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mehxI-0004Iz-L6 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Oct 2021 14:10:51 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:41.75.191.219]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 0000000000027EFC.000000006175A1A5.0000446C; Sun, 24 Oct 2021 11:10:44 -0700 Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87lf2izs3d.fsf@zoho.eu> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:134121 Archived-At: * Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor [2021-10-24 12:32]: > Jean Louis wrote: > > > I fully get this. Though ideology is a pleasant game for > > mind though not useful if it cannot be > > practically implemented. > > "Ideology" :D > > Are you into politics now, Jean? :) > > But actually it isn't true, if pwgen can use /dev/urandom, > /dev/random and/or the thermal noise of the HDD, that's as > practical as it gets. > > So we shouldn't disrespect that just because Elisp cannot do > it/certain individual likes to ... etc etc. How "disrespect"? It is not related to it. `pwgen' is system command, good for let us say shell, but Emacs is much more and is integrated into database on my side. If then Emacs Lisp programs run on different systems, I like if they don't depend on too many external commands, especially one as simple as password generation. I cannot write `ffmpeg' so I convert videos by using Emacs Lisp on remote computers calling external `ffmpeg'. -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/