From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: SLIME and SBCL (Common Lisp) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2021 09:41:54 +0300 Message-ID: References: <87pmw7g7uo.fsf@zoho.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="30151"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/2.0.7+183 (3d24855) (2021-05-28) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 28 08:43:03 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lxkz1-0007eD-Dl for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 28 Jun 2021 08:43:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38376 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lxkz0-0002c0-9Y for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 28 Jun 2021 02:43:02 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44286) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lxkyf-0002bc-Id for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jun 2021 02:42:41 -0400 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:56949) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lxkyd-0007AT-GK for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jun 2021 02:42:41 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:41.210.146.17]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 0000000000055D5B.0000000060D96F5C.00005FE1; Sun, 27 Jun 2021 23:42:35 -0700 Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87pmw7g7uo.fsf@zoho.eu> Received-SPF: permerror client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:131318 Archived-At: * Emanuel Berg [2021-06-27 02:06]: > Trying to get SLIME and SBCL Common Lisp up-and-running but my > old stuff won't wort. It gets stuck on the count-up > connection phase. Before few years, SLIME worked just fine. I don't know now, somehow it breaks connection too often. So I find it easier to disable it and use M-x run-lisp -- it seem to be so much more stable work. Connection is not easily broken unless I do kill-emacs by mistake. I don't have access to all features of SLIME, but hey. There is certain benefit of programming without helper functions as it drives memory and thinking better. And I use CLISP implementation that has a readline, so I run separate vterm or terminal where I can quickly write any command and get its apropos or quickly jump to the documentation of a function. SLIME has those features and when I am not using SLIME I switch to CLISP and readline TAB TAB, documentation opens for every function. SBCL does not have a readline. I also try to minimize libraries and just implement practical functionality without dependent software. Yesterday I was supposed to write a general Double Opt-In program in Common Lisp but I wrote it in Emacs Lisp. I guess I will have to rewrite it in Common Lisp, then I will do the same in Chicken, Dr. Racket, Scheme and Perl, then maybe other languages to add. -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/