From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: common lisp vs elisp. Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2021 10:35:38 +0300 Message-ID: References: <87bl81kz3b.fsf@zoho.eu> <87tult2fvq.fsf@fastmail.fm> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="14805"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/2.0.7+183 (3d24855) (2021-05-28) Cc: Joost Kremers , help-gnu-emacs To: Hongyi Zhao Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 20 09:37:11 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lus10-0003gQ-5v for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 20 Jun 2021 09:37:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35590 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lus0z-0005Qq-5E for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 20 Jun 2021 03:37:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58236) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lus0f-0005Qi-Ix for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jun 2021 03:36:49 -0400 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:47925) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lus0d-0005ra-MG for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jun 2021 03:36:49 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:197.157.0.61]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 00000000000D9939.0000000060CEF00D.00006E68; Sun, 20 Jun 2021 00:36:44 -0700 Mail-Followup-To: Hongyi Zhao , Joost Kremers , help-gnu-emacs Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: 29 X-Spam_score: 2.9 X-Spam_bar: ++ X-Spam_report: (2.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_SBL_CSS=3.335, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.5, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:131083 Archived-At: * Hongyi Zhao [2021-06-20 09:59]: > Such being the case, IELM is the only available REPL env for Elisp, > but I'm not sure if it's full-featured. I find it more useful than Common Lisp REPL. If you start observing features, it will allow switching working buffers and thus context of evaluation. That is like multiple REPLs in same session. Then you have nice menues and plethora of options not available in other LISP implementations' REPL-es. Most of time I use M-: to evaluate quickly, thus all of the Emacs is one big REPL. Common Lisp is a pleasure to program. But I have changed almost all programs from Common Lisp to Emacs Lisp without regret as I got the user interfaces both in console and GUI. For now I use Common Lisp on remote servers handling dynamic communication with clients and sending me encrypted emails. I have a plan to switch that as well to Emacs Lisp. My areas of programming are exclusively communications such as emails, SMS, phone calls, faxes, letters, mostly related to marketing and relationships with people and the Dynamic Knowledge Repository. About Dynamic Knowledge Repositories (DKR) https://www.dougengelbart.org/content/view/190/163/ In other subjects, maybe some heavy calculations, collection of data from networks, heavy data processing, networking, I could use Common Lisp. -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/