From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: How users start programming in Emacs Lisp... Date: Mon, 31 May 2021 00:33:44 +0300 Message-ID: References: <878s3xpab1.fsf@zoho.eu> <87wnrggh5x.fsf@zoho.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="35767"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/2.0.7+183 (3d24855) (2021-05-28) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun May 30 23:39:20 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lnT9T-00098P-NO for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 30 May 2021 23:39:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58958 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lnT9S-000387-P4 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 30 May 2021 17:39:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34526) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lnT7u-00035i-UY for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 30 May 2021 17:37:42 -0400 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:38955) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lnT7s-0006M0-UZ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 30 May 2021 17:37:42 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:102.86.7.33]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 00000000000AE2D6.0000000060B405A2.00007175; Sun, 30 May 2021 14:37:37 -0700 Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87wnrggh5x.fsf@zoho.eu> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:130347 Archived-At: * Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor [2021-05-30 22:24]: > Eduardo Ochs wrote: > > > Hi, just a curiosity... > > > > why do you prefer to use scratch buffers for elisp code instead of > > using (semi-scratch?) files in which we record all our experiments? > > > > In the tutorials of eev I try to convince the new users to treat their > > notes and scratch code as "field notes", and save everything they > > can... one of my arguments is this: > > Okay? > > Sounds interesting but what is it and what does it do? It is hyperdocument system for Emacs. You can create hyperlinks in form of Emacs Lisp and jump somewhere and come back, use it for workflows of life and business, for education and similar. WWW Hyperlinks for example, one cannot use to read any kind of documents or jump just anywhere but Emacs Lisp may be used to create such hyperlinks. Here is one hyperlink: Press M-e within M-x evv on this line opens manual: (find-man "date") Going back from manual page works with M-k -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns Sign an open letter in support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/