From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Ideas on Hypertext systems in Emacs needed Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2021 10:17:25 +0300 Message-ID: References: <87lf7lxmpg.fsf@zoho.eu> <87h7i9xicx.fsf@zoho.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="36421"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/2.0.7+183 (3d24855) (2021-05-28) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 08 09:21:55 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lqW3f-0009DS-U2 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 08 Jun 2021 09:21:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58140 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lqW3e-0007KC-CP for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 08 Jun 2021 03:21:54 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48940) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lqW30-0007K4-M9 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Jun 2021 03:21:14 -0400 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:49725) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lqW2y-0005Xr-AT for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Jun 2021 03:21:13 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:197.157.0.46]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 00000000000AE2EE.0000000060BF1A65.00003479; Tue, 08 Jun 2021 00:21:09 -0700 Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87h7i9xicx.fsf@zoho.eu> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -3 X-Spam_score: -0.4 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (-0.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.5, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:130614 Archived-At: * Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor [2021-06-08 04:21]: > Eduardo Ochs wrote: > > > English is not my first language, but to me "use whatever > > everyone else is using" seems to imply "don't use niche > > tools that are used by small groups of very enthusiastic > > hackers that love them very much". > > OK, but what exactly is the hacker alternative to HTTP, HTML, > and the web, then? It does not matter if for hacker or not. Hypertext systems existed long before the WWW. Org - it has hypertext capacity and is not related to WWW, but can be published to WWW. GNU Hyperbole is a hypertext system, it has capacity to build such. It makes hypertext out of everything. xref package is specific hypertext system that uses Emacs Lisp definitions for cross references. eev - it is hypertext system Texinfo is hypertext system Emacs has more of it as built-in, for example `button.el' library for clickable buttons. And I am sure I missed some of those. Outside of Emacs there is so much more. If somebody knows if I can do more with Texinfo hyperlinks in Emacs let me know. Maybe I can make those hyperlinks more dynamic, for example by pressing a and hyperlink, maybe I can get its attributes, by pressing r and hyperlink maybe I could get relations, by activing I could go to target and similar, that is what I am looking for, a hyperlink that can be activated in numerous ways. -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/