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From: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
To: Christopher Dimech <dimech@gmx.com>
Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, moasenwood@zoho.eu
Subject: Re: Use Emacs as the IDE for Wolfram Mathematica.
Date: Mon, 24 May 2021 17:12:08 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YKu0OBp2QxpKK0iD@protected.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <trinity-694ec9c9-ae37-426b-8cfb-e5ef62372b9f-1621860479398@3c-app-mailcom-bs01>

* Christopher Dimech <dimech@gmx.com> [2021-05-24 15:48]:
> You can add functionality as you wish.  When you use emacs for
> personal use, you are not bound to GPL Licensed code only.

(✿╹◡╹) That is right. Only that it is not a licensed software. I mean
it is possible to imagine it is licensed, but it cannot be conveyed or
given to anybody unless licensed properly.

> > If that package runs without modification of Emacs software, it does
> > not modify Emacs, it is just data that is interpreted. It also cannot
> > require any of GPL libraries that are GPL licensed. However, majority
> > of packages are written with the purpose to modify Emacs. Not to use
> > Emacs Lisp solely for its own purposes.
> 
> It could be for personal use, but not part of emacs.

You got it right.

> > If you write such code, under conditions not to modify Emacs, not to
> > use GPL-ed libraries, then it could be proprietary. Otherwise legally
> > it cannot be. Question is why would anybody use Emacs to write such
> > interpreted programs when there are many other programming languages
> > with MIT licensed libraries.
> 
> You are correct, I was talking from the legal point of view, and
> about emacs support for Wolfram Mathematica.  Ubuntu is one such
> system, where you have free software where proprietary code is added
> to it.

Ubuntu is operating system, is is collection of software. It is not
impossible to have collection with mix of proprietary and free
software, I have seen such collections since 1999. 

Emacs support for proprietary software would be possible if such
support is in terms of a mode that just takes care of editing.

Problem would be if Emacs package requires the proprietary software
and GPL-ed software in the same time.

The IDE and modes most probably do not require, they would just
execute external problem.

> > MIT licensed libraries one can use how one wants, GPL-ed no.
> 
> MIT has used many licenses, and it is ambiguous because many faili
> to distinguish between them.  One should not use the term "MIT
> License".

Yes, but you got it.


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Jean

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-24 14:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-23  5:25 Use Emacs as the IDE for Wolfram Mathematica Hongyi Zhao
2021-05-23  5:39 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-05-23  6:39   ` Christopher Dimech
2021-05-23  8:54     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-05-23 10:00       ` Christopher Dimech
2021-05-23 10:10         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-05-23 12:13           ` Jean Louis
2021-05-23 21:27             ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-07 15:48           ` TRS-80
2021-05-23 12:00         ` Jean Louis
2021-05-23 12:48           ` Christopher Dimech
2021-05-23 13:09             ` Don't think Emacs package may be proprietary Jean Louis
2021-05-23 13:54               ` Christopher Dimech
2021-05-23 14:03                 ` Jean Louis
2021-05-23 14:31                   ` Christopher Dimech
2021-05-23 14:37                   ` Christopher Dimech
2021-05-23 21:26           ` Use Emacs as the IDE for Wolfram Mathematica Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-05-24  8:28             ` Christopher Dimech
2021-05-24  9:10               ` Jean Louis
2021-05-24  9:34                 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-05-24 11:31                   ` Jean Louis
2021-05-24 11:43                     ` Christopher Dimech
2021-05-24 11:54                       ` Jean Louis
2021-05-24 12:47                         ` Christopher Dimech
2021-05-24 14:12                           ` Jean Louis [this message]
2021-05-24 15:37                             ` Hongyi Zhao
2021-05-23 12:57       ` Christopher Dimech
2021-05-23 13:11         ` Jean Louis
2021-05-23 13:23           ` Christopher Dimech
2021-06-07 16:06             ` TRS-80
2021-06-07 22:16               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-05-23 13:39           ` Christopher Dimech
2021-05-23 21:28         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-05-23 21:42           ` Free software is liberty for future - " Jean Louis
2021-05-24  8:37           ` Christopher Dimech

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