From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: not good proposal: "C-z " reserved for users Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2021 09:06:33 +0300 Message-ID: References: <871rdk4c1m.fsf@robertthorpeconsulting.com> <640551af-d035-f133-3b98-fe7c7a06279d@yandex.ru> <8f760064-b6c2-5714-8a0c-6645b398e0fc@yandex.ru> <87czx2jh9y.fsf@zoho.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="785"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/2.0 (3d08634) (2020-11-07) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 15 07:12:02 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lBX73-00005s-LD for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 15 Feb 2021 07:12:01 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44102 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lBX72-0004ik-NU for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 15 Feb 2021 01:12:00 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:59560) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lBX6G-0004iY-0i for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Feb 2021 01:11:12 -0500 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:50745) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lBX6D-0003EY-N8 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Feb 2021 01:11:11 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:41.210.147.95]) (AUTH: PLAIN securesender, TLS: TLS1.2,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 000000000001DFF5.00000000602A107A.00007124; Sun, 14 Feb 2021 23:11:05 -0700 Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87czx2jh9y.fsf@zoho.eu> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:128078 Archived-At: * Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor [2021-02-15 03:41]: > Dmitry Gutov wrote: > > > Because even though "suspend job" is handy to have in the > > toolset, if an average user only reaches for it twice a year, > > that command doesn't really need a key binding as prominent as > > 'C-z'. > > Well, yes, but C-z isn't a good key. You have to move your > entire hand, and it is awkward (keys too close) at that. That is what you know on Swedish keyboard. Not everybody is aware that Z key is often interchanged with Y. There are QWERTY and QWERTZ keyboards. Researching about keys requires effort.