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From: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: not good proposal: "C-z <letter>" reserved for users
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2021 12:01:09 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YCeVVQVq7htdeLW4@protected.rcdrun.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87wnvc8kd1.fsf@zoho.eu>

* Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> [2021-02-13 11:05]:
> Jean Louis wrote:
> 
> >> Virutal Private Servers, dedicate servers are in millions
> >> or billions [...]
> >
> > Those are not mine, those are installations worldwide.
> 
> Hey, how many drips of H2O are the in the Niagara falls?
> Millions or billions, right?

For H20 who knows.

I have no idea of number of Internet servers, it requires researching
and thinking how to estimate it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_Internet_hosts

https://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2009/05/14/whos-got-the-most-web-servers/

If 1&1 company has 70000 Internet servers in 2010, maybe now they have
double or triple that amount. I do not know how many VPS-es are
spawned on each server and not each is used for VPS business. But let
us say 50000 servers are used for VPS-e and 20 virtual machines are
spawned, that is already 500,000 VPS-es, so 1 company could alone
already represent 1 million of VPS-es spawned. If there are 1000
companies that may reach 1 billion.

I do believe there must be millions of VPSes that are sold to
customers and administered by customers in one way or the other.

I also believe that there must be billions of VPS-es anyway, but not
necessarily administered by customers, many can be spawned
automatically up and down for process control or whatever operations.

Among manye millions or VPS-es spawned I believe that number of people
entering into VPS by using shell is considerable, maybe one tenth of
the number, that could easily by one million of people. One part of
those could be sometimes using Emacs.

For example company Digitalocean provides VPSes to people, they
provide instructions for Emacs here:
https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-use-the-emacs-editor-in-linux

That means Digitalocean provides for its customers tutorial and there
are customers who use Emacs and entering their VPSes and handling
shell stuff.

But how many is hard to know. Such customers will rather not invoke
popularity contests statistics reporting or consider VPS to be their
personal machine.

Jean



  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-13  9:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 239+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2021-02-07 23:29 ` Proposal: "C-z <letter>" reserved for users S Boucher via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-07 23:46   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-08  2:06   ` Howard Melman
2021-02-11  1:37     ` Christopher Miles
2021-02-11 13:52       ` Howard Melman
2021-02-11 16:58         ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-02-12  3:31         ` Christopher Miles
2021-02-08  3:31   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-08 16:22     ` Francis Belliveau
2021-02-08 21:19       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-09  0:52         ` Skip Montanaro
2021-02-09  1:03           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-09  5:58           ` Marcin Borkowski
2021-02-09 12:19             ` Skip Montanaro
2021-02-09 13:44               ` Marcus Harnisch
2021-02-09 16:48               ` Gregory Heytings
2021-02-09 16:53                 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-09 17:24                   ` Skip Montanaro
2021-02-09 17:33                     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-09 17:43                       ` Skip Montanaro
2021-02-09 17:35                     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-09 17:45                       ` Skip Montanaro
2021-02-09 23:55                         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-10  1:50                           ` no job control in this shell (was: Proposal: "C-z <letter>" reserved for users) Skip Montanaro
2021-02-10  5:22                             ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-10 10:49                   ` Proposal: "C-z <letter>" reserved for users Jean Louis
2021-02-09 17:24                 ` Skip Montanaro
2021-02-11  0:52           ` Francis Belliveau
2021-02-09  5:55       ` Marcin Borkowski
2021-02-09  6:41       ` not good proposal: " Jean Louis
2021-02-09  7:51         ` Yuri Khan
2021-02-10 10:13           ` Jean Louis
2021-02-10 10:43           ` Jean Louis
2021-02-09  8:07         ` Marcin Borkowski
2021-02-10 10:21           ` Jean Louis
2021-02-09  9:13         ` Gregory Heytings
2021-02-09  9:31           ` C-z, C-c, job control commands [was: not good proposal: "C-z <letter>" reserved for users] tomas
2021-02-09 12:22             ` Skip Montanaro
2021-02-10 10:36           ` not good proposal: "C-z <letter>" reserved for users Jean Louis
2021-02-10 12:46             ` Marcin Borkowski
2021-02-10 19:14               ` Jean Louis
2021-02-10 19:31                 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-10 19:42                   ` Jean Louis
2021-02-10 19:31                 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-02-10 19:49                   ` Jean Louis
2021-02-10 20:20                     ` Gregory Heytings
2021-02-11  7:54                   ` Robert Thorpe
2021-02-11  8:30                     ` Joost Kremers
2021-02-11 13:15                       ` Gregory Heytings
2021-02-12 10:14                         ` Joost Kremers
2021-02-12 13:00                           ` Gregory Heytings
2021-02-12 16:48                             ` Joost Kremers
2021-02-12 17:33                               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-12  8:10                       ` Robert Thorpe
2021-02-12 12:37                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-13  7:37                           ` Robert Thorpe
2021-02-13  8:50                             ` Jean Louis
2021-02-13 14:17                               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-13 20:48                             ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-02-13 21:17                               ` Jean Louis
2021-02-13 22:23                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-13 23:38                               ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-02-14 18:30                                 ` Drew Adams
2021-02-15  4:23                               ` Robert Thorpe
2021-02-13 23:47                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-15  4:49                               ` Robert Thorpe
2021-02-15 18:28                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-16  7:18                                   ` Jean Louis
2021-02-16  7:26                                     ` Jean Louis
2021-02-11  8:45                     ` Gregory Heytings
2021-02-12  5:42                       ` Robert Thorpe
2021-02-12  8:44                         ` Gregory Heytings
2021-02-12  9:58                           ` Joost Kremers
2021-02-12 12:40                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-12 12:47                           ` Gregory Heytings
2021-02-12 19:07                             ` Howard Melman
2021-02-12 20:56                               ` Jean Louis
2021-02-12 21:05                                 ` Howard Melman
2021-02-16 12:38                                   ` ken
2021-02-12 21:07                                 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-13  7:54                                   ` Jean Louis
2021-02-13  8:03                                     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-13  9:01                                       ` Jean Louis [this message]
2021-02-13 14:21                                         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-12 20:04                             ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-12 20:10                               ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-02-12 20:51                                 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-12 20:45                             ` Jean Louis
2021-02-12 20:57                               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-13  8:28                                 ` Robert Thorpe
2021-02-13  9:56                                   ` Jean Louis
2021-02-13 14:43                                     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-13 14:55                                       ` math (was: Re: not good proposal: "C-z <letter>" reserved for users) Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-13 15:08                                         ` Jean Louis
2021-02-13 15:20                                           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-13 15:29                                             ` Jean Louis
2021-02-13 20:32                                               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-13 15:09                                         ` Make Super key work in console - was " Jean Louis
2021-02-13 15:23                                           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-13 15:33                                             ` Jean Louis
2021-02-13 20:26                                               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-16 11:55                                                 ` OT: more praise to Tramp - was: Re: Make Super key work in console - was Re: math ken
2021-02-13 23:43                                             ` console key tutorial, revised (was: Re: Make Super key work in console - was Re: math (was: Re: not good proposal: "C-z <letter>" reserved for users)) Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-14  5:17                                               ` Jean Louis
2021-02-14  6:21                                                 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-14  8:05                                                   ` Jean Louis
2021-02-14  8:37                                                     ` Yuri Khan
2021-02-14  9:36                                                       ` Jean Louis
2021-02-14 13:43                                                         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-14 14:36                                                           ` Jean Louis
2021-02-14  8:58                                                     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-14 10:38                                                       ` Snippet for website inquiries by using one click on the email address Jean Louis
2021-02-14 13:56                                                         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-14 19:38                                           ` Make Super key work in console Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-15 11:10                                             ` Jean Louis
2021-02-15 16:36                                               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-15 18:06                                                 ` Yuri Khan
2021-02-15 18:46                                                   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-16  6:53                                                   ` Jean Louis
2021-02-16  7:42                                                     ` Yuri Khan
2021-02-16 11:03                                                       ` Jean Louis
2021-02-20 14:32                                                       ` Jean Louis
2021-02-20 15:26                                                         ` Yuri Khan
2021-02-20 15:46                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-20 16:07                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-20 16:16                                                               ` Yuri Khan
2021-02-20 16:38                                                                 ` Yuri Khan
2021-02-21  5:31                                                                   ` Jean Louis
2021-02-21  7:18                                                                     ` Yuri Khan
2021-02-21 12:40                                                                       ` Jean Louis
2021-02-20 16:49                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-20 17:27                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-20 18:13                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-20 18:19                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-20 21:14                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-21  3:32                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-21 20:11                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-21  4:56                                                           ` Jean Louis
2021-02-21  5:06                                                             ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-21  5:42                                                               ` Jean Louis
2021-02-21  6:10                                                                 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-22  4:59                                                                   ` Jean Louis
2021-02-24 15:37                                                                     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-12 20:26                           ` not good proposal: "C-z <letter>" reserved for users Jean Louis
2021-02-12 21:08                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-13  7:59                               ` Jean Louis
2021-02-13 12:30                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-13  7:12                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-13  8:37                               ` Jean Louis
2021-02-13  9:09                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-13 10:14                                   ` Jean Louis
2021-02-13  8:17                           ` Robert Thorpe
2021-02-14  0:35                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-14  1:54                               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-14  7:58                                 ` Jean Louis
2021-02-14  8:33                                   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-14  9:34                                     ` Jean Louis
2021-02-14 13:18                                       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-14 14:29                                         ` Jean Louis
2021-02-14 15:26                                           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-14 17:22                                             ` Jean Louis
2021-02-14 17:56                                               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-15  4:12                                           ` Robert Thorpe
2021-02-15 18:15                                             ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-15 18:24                                               ` tomas
2021-02-16  1:30                                               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-16  6:05                                               ` Stefan Möding
2021-02-16 21:58                                                 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-16  7:13                                               ` Jean Louis
2021-02-16 22:07                                                 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-20 14:39                                                   ` Jean Louis
2021-02-20 19:14                                                     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-17  8:55                                               ` Robert Thorpe
2021-02-17 23:23                                                 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-18  6:29                                                   ` Robert Thorpe
2021-02-20 14:54                                                   ` Jean Louis
2021-02-20 19:21                                                     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-21  6:02                                                       ` Jean Louis
2021-02-21  6:21                                                         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-14  8:03                                 ` Jean Louis
2021-02-14  8:46                                   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-14 10:21                                     ` Jean Louis
2021-02-14 13:27                                       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-14 10:24                                     ` handling viewport in HTML - was " Jean Louis
2021-02-14 13:48                                       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-14 14:37                                         ` Jean Louis
2021-02-14 15:21                                           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-14 16:26                                             ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-14 19:44                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-14 19:50                                                 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-14 13:11                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-14 13:16                                   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-14  7:58                               ` Jean Louis
2021-02-14  8:43                                 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-14 10:16                                   ` Jean Louis
2021-02-14 13:21                                     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-14 14:31                                       ` Jean Louis
2021-02-14 22:13                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-15  0:39                                   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-15  2:23                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-15  6:16                                       ` Who use C-x u or C-/ for undo? Who uses C-z for undo? Jean Louis
2021-02-15 17:59                                         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-16  6:52                                           ` Jean Louis
2021-02-15 17:56                                       ` not good proposal: "C-z <letter>" reserved for users Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-15 18:03                                         ` tomas
2021-02-15  6:06                                     ` Jean Louis
2021-02-15 18:31                                       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-16  7:22                                         ` Jean Louis
2021-02-15  4:18                                   ` Robert Thorpe
2021-02-15  5:51                                   ` Jean Louis
2021-02-15 18:20                                     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-16  6:57                                       ` Jean Louis
2021-02-16 22:02                                         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-14 11:28                               ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-02-14 12:55                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-14 13:14                                   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-14 20:22                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-14 20:49                                       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-11 14:32                     ` Jean Louis
2021-02-11 16:58                     ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-02-12  7:18                       ` Robert Thorpe
2021-02-12 17:51                         ` Drew Adams
2021-02-13  7:46                           ` Robert Thorpe
2021-02-08 10:03   ` Proposal: " Colin Baxter
2021-02-08 20:20     ` Leo Butler
2021-02-09  6:02     ` Marcin Borkowski
2021-02-09 12:23       ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-09 12:41         ` Gregory Heytings
2021-02-09 12:56           ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-09 13:04             ` Gregory Heytings
2021-02-10 10:54               ` Jean Louis
2021-02-09 13:05             ` Bastian Beranek
2021-02-09 15:59             ` Skip Montanaro
2021-02-09 16:11               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-09 16:19                 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-09 20:14               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-09 20:50                 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-09 20:18               ` Joost Kremers
2021-02-10 10:57               ` Jean Louis

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