From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Proposal: "C-z " reserved for users Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2021 13:49:16 +0300 Message-ID: References: <1973673328.2493716.1612740554692.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1973673328.2493716.1612740554692@mail.yahoo.com> <83tuqnkzff.fsf@gnu.org> <87czxap89f.fsf@zoho.eu> <87eehp4wae.fsf@mbork.pl> <8ed9b43502f51689d8b1@heytings.org> <87czx9kwrc.fsf@zoho.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="22994"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/2.0 (3d08634) (2020-11-07) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 10 11:52:28 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l9n6h-0005re-Ny for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2021 11:52:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39424 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l9n6g-0005lN-Pi for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2021 05:52:26 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46678) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l9n5z-0005k6-0K for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2021 05:51:43 -0500 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:40021) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l9n5u-0003PV-Rv for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2021 05:51:42 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:41.202.241.3]) (AUTH: PLAIN securesender, TLS: TLS1.2,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 000000000001E079.000000006023BAB8.0000266E; Wed, 10 Feb 2021 03:51:35 -0700 Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87czx9kwrc.fsf@zoho.eu> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:127762 Archived-At: * Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor [2021-02-09 20:00]: > Gregory Heytings wrote: > > >> C-z is about as fundamental a keybinding as C-a, C-e, C-f > >> and C-b. If you run "emacs -nw" how do you pause it to get > >> back to your shell prompt? > > Right, that was what happened! > > But if you do that, how do you return to Emacs? You have fg, bg kill %NUMBER comands, that is all shell. Actually C-z is expectation coming from shell. I did not know that C-z has to be implemented in Emacs or other software. My opinion was that C-z is shell control of other software, regardless if that other software have implemented various key bindings I was thinking shell is in charge and in authority over programs running in the shell. So C-z is my expectation to work always. Maybe is not so in reality. This would invoke job #1 to come into foreground: $ fg 1 This would invoke job #2 to come into foreground: $ fg 2 So you could have multiple Emacs sessions or multiple editors in the same shell and switching between them that way. That is not same as screen/tmux as suspending a job does not continue execution of the job. Jean