From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: text formating Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2023 23:12:29 +0300 Message-ID: References: <3b5f0e6f-fba9-400c-da28-a63de55649a8@posteo.de> <5dfdd6d1-ffe3-668a-4c4e-247d563eaec0@posteo.de> <83y1pgw35y.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="11243"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/2.2.9+54 (af2080d) (2022-11-21) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 02 23:09:26 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pNhll-0002iW-Pk for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 02 Feb 2023 23:09:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pNhl2-0001mb-AN; Thu, 02 Feb 2023 17:08:40 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pNhl0-0001m2-P0 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Feb 2023 17:08:38 -0500 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pNhkz-0005P1-2n; Thu, 02 Feb 2023 17:08:38 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:197.239.7.46]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 0000000000055D7C.0000000063DC3446.00005E26; Thu, 02 Feb 2023 15:08:06 -0700 Mail-Followup-To: Eli Zaretskii , help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <83y1pgw35y.fsf@gnu.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -2 X-Spam_score: -0.3 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (-0.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_SBL=0.141, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.5, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:142580 Archived-At: Content-Type: text/enriched Text-Width: 70 * Eli Zaretskii < [2023-02-02 17:31]: > > Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2023 13:52:22 +0000 > > From: Gottfried < > > > > I don't understand why until now nobody made in Emacs a > > WYSIWYG Mode. > > They did: it's called Enriched mode. By reference from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WYSIWYG In computing, WYSIWYG (/ˈwɪziwɪɡ/ WIZ-ee-wig), an acronym for What You See Is What You Get,[1] is a system in which editing software allows content to be edited in a form that resembles its appearance when printed or displayed as a finished product,[2] such as a printed document, web page, or slide presentation. WYSIWYG implies a user interface that allows the user to view something very similar to the end result while the document is being created.[3] In general, WYSIWYG implies the ability to directly manipulate the layout of a document without having to type or remember names of layout commands. Enriched mode is far from there. At least user should be able to get same printed representation even if font sizes are not changed. So far Emacs cannot print Unicode and smilies that I know. WYSIWYW, what you see is what you want, used to describe GNU TeXmacs editing platform.[22] The abbreviation clarifies that unlike in WYSIWYG editors, the user is able to customize WYSIWYW platforms to act (possibly in part) as manual typesetting programs such as TeX or troff. Maybe that one fits better to Enriched mode, but I do not know good printing representation for it. -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/