From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Heime Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Improving Scroll Bar Tools Date: Sat, 11 May 2024 07:37:35 +0000 Message-ID: References: <875xvl25sx.fsf@yahoo.com> <871q69237j.fsf@yahoo.com> <1ICXks4QeJPHggA-e4wSMYxpTpXSYkXJBnUqpf2GfutGPYTX-qKpvK__UEV5IV-7BZ_iTCVCXIJwF0F5Z3gkxrhRtvO-Bz40azno5wGTLdM=@protonmail.com> <86seyo3kkf.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="13915"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Eli Zaretskii , help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Heime Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat May 11 09:38:26 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1s5hJJ-0003NP-Ra for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 11 May 2024 09:38:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1s5hIh-0004zN-Ni; Sat, 11 May 2024 03:37:47 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1s5hIg-0004z7-1X for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 11 May 2024 03:37:46 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-40138.protonmail.ch ([185.70.40.138]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1s5hIe-0001zl-Ei; Sat, 11 May 2024 03:37:45 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail3; t=1715413061; x=1715672261; bh=dWyyqUdfR/oqH+ZwKMhZhx3oPWb8A3HzH1YZGzILmxY=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID:BIMI-Selector; b=fEGCz0QeXqyBUGu7RhcR0bIDTE31nR0RR1lA8d+Xoy92GwhHPe72tTZhGdECV5D+v KnNN+Q56vNkv7aaIfzIXqZKue5+cRQaa8d149/RDvdfvGaHSqMPtSJp4nHtU2sFDAq fwS2aYwQR5os3oF6UGld9m6st6ysD3JvDE5mEeoOd3vVbjx5pSbXmpmFKMih3glCXo f6DQLEL0+apqT+/1srMvaJC6smtR8AUgxEO81uXS0QvJk97eKibVQMMbl+N+HYmmKt hdSFhtl3nCBGY08aORTF54GugGQFDbbIT1+KXlmEzf2SldS4SRSUXSVh4R3xInfdC9 mohH3ZO+ajWvQ== In-Reply-To: Feedback-ID: 57735886:user:proton X-Pm-Message-ID: 037c921a926d00678e7fa603ff95c5d4b92fefb4 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.70.40.138; envelope-from=heimeborgia@protonmail.com; helo=mail-40138.protonmail.ch X-Spam_score_int: -10 X-Spam_score: -1.1 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, FREEMAIL_REPLY=1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TO_EQ_FM_DIRECT_MX=0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:146676 Archived-At: Sent with Proton Mail secure email. On Saturday, May 11th, 2024 at 7:28 PM, Heime = wrote: >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Sent with Proton Mail secure email. >=20 >=20 > On Saturday, May 11th, 2024 at 6:54 PM, Eli Zaretskii eliz@gnu.org wrote: >=20 > > > Date: Sat, 11 May 2024 00:12:11 +0000 > > > From: Heime heimeborgia@protonmail.com > > > Cc: Po Lu luangruo@yahoo.com, > > > Heime via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor help-gnu-emacs@gnu= .org > > >=20 > > > I have seen that applying vertical and horizontal scroll bars with > > >=20 > > > (set-window-scroll-bars (selected-window) nil 'right nil 'bottom nil) > > >=20 > > > will not let the following to take complete effect an all windows in = frame > > >=20 > > > (scroll-bar-mode 1) > > > (horizontal-scroll-bar-mode 0) > >=20 > > The ELisp manual clearly says that set-window-scroll-bars overrides > > the frame-specific settings of scroll bars. >=20 >=20 > This is a problem because if one forgets changing some window with > set-window-scroll-bars, and the modes do not work, it is a problem. >=20 > If one wants to remove horizontal scroll in all windows in frame, > the command should be expected to do so, nothwithstanding any > previous changes with a different command (e.g. set-window-scroll-bars). One cannot expect users to remember whether a specific window in a frame has been changed with set-window-scroll-bars. And if one wants a global=20 change, one has to go on each window individually to change their setting. Simply allowing the modes to take effect is more understandable, convenient= =20 and easy to use.