From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: [External] : Re: How to make M-x TAB not work on (interactive) declaration? Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2023 18:35:22 +0300 Message-ID: References: <87y1qdct5m.fsf@gnu.org> <874jt0imh0.fsf@dataswamp.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="20592"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/2.2.9+54 (af2080d) (2022-11-21) Cc: Rudolf =?utf-8?Q?Adamkovi=C4=8D?= , help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Yuri Khan Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 16 16:52:02 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pHRmE-00053Y-N1 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 16 Jan 2023 16:52:02 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pHRlc-0006Oj-VU; Mon, 16 Jan 2023 10:51:24 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pHRlc-0006Ob-AL for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Jan 2023 10:51:24 -0500 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pHRla-0003cR-BC for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Jan 2023 10:51:23 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:197.239.8.177]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 00000000000560B2.0000000063C5725C.00000FD6; Mon, 16 Jan 2023 08:50:52 -0700 Mail-Followup-To: Yuri Khan , Rudolf =?utf-8?Q?Adamkovi=C4=8D?= , help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:142271 Archived-At: * Yuri Khan [2023-01-16 13:39]: > On Mon, 16 Jan 2023 at 17:17, Jean Louis wrote: > > > By above I do not see reference to Lisp. What you state above is not > > what Lisp function is supposed to do and it does not tell why is it > > so in Lisp, do you know? > > In mathematics the sum of zero elements is zero and the product of > zero elements is one. There are no elements in this context. (+) ➜ 0 Multiplication of zero elements is also zero: (* 0 0) ➜ 0 but Lisp: (*) ➜ 1 It is not sufficiently logic. You can put X theories, but make it consistent. > In Lisp the + function implements the mathematical sum, and * the > product. Lisp chooses to allow more than two arguments for the sum > and product, so why would it impose any artificial restriction on > less than one? You may find it entertaining, but I did not get answer that way. > > > + is a built-in function in ‘C source code’. > > > (+ &rest NUMBERS-OR-MARKERS) > > > Return sum of any number of arguments, which are numbers or markers. > > What it doesn’t say explicitly is that any markers are implicitly > converted to numbers. After that, all arguments (if any) are numbers, > and can be dealt with according to number rules. Buffer location markers? How do I add markers to each other? -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/