From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: algorithmic Lisp language (was: Re: How to make M-x TAB not work on (interactive) declaration?) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2023 22:32:54 +0300 Message-ID: References: <61c2cc81db661e2624771a06a1274eac.support1@rcdrun.com> <83h6x1r25f.fsf@gnu.org> <87cz7ph7jo.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87358k9qbd.fsf_-_@dataswamp.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="33974"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/2.2.9+54 (af2080d) (2022-11-21) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 09 23:10:47 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pF0Lv-0008d6-KM for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2023 23:10:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pF0LQ-0002xc-7r; Mon, 09 Jan 2023 17:10:16 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pF0LP-0002xU-61 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2023 17:10:15 -0500 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pF0LN-0002BE-KZ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2023 17:10:14 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:197.239.12.77]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 0000000000055EAF.0000000063BC90A7.00006D41; Mon, 09 Jan 2023 15:09:43 -0700 Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87358k9qbd.fsf_-_@dataswamp.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:142178 Archived-At: * Emanuel Berg [2023-01-09 19:28]: > I have often thought one should have a minimal > Lisp language instead of a maximalist one [we > don't have to outlaw the maximalist ones] so > that the minimal one would be accessible to > anyone instantly, but then one would program not > one zillion modules so it would be impossible to > know where to start anyway, no, instead one > would implement known algorithms in that minimal > language - indeed, sounds pretty fun and easy, > right? (E.g. Bubblesort [1] or whatever.) > Then one would have a superstructure language > not of programming code as we are used to it, > but of a special notation, actually a new code, > but denoting those algorithms and how they would > link and combine ... Sounds to me as Prolog. >From The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48 [gcide]: PROLOG \PRO"LOG\ (pr[=o]"l[o^]g), n. (Computers) A declarative higher-level programming language in which instructions are written not as explicit procedural data-manipulation commands, but as logical statements. The language has built-in resolution procedures for logical inference. [PJC] -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/