From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: [External] : Make new buffer from menu Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2022 15:13:49 +0300 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="10255"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/2.2.9+50 (c79959e) (2022-11-21) Cc: tomas@tuxteam.de, help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Heime Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 04 13:37:19 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1p1oFC-0002RZ-Qa for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 04 Dec 2022 13:37:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p1oEq-00078f-LK; Sun, 04 Dec 2022 07:36:56 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p1oEl-00077d-Ke for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Dec 2022 07:36:51 -0500 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p1oEj-00045f-1i for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Dec 2022 07:36:50 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:102.83.127.103]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 0000000000055DA2.00000000638C9460.00005E28; Sun, 04 Dec 2022 05:36:47 -0700 Mail-Followup-To: Heime , tomas@tuxteam.de, help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:141349 Archived-At: * Heime [2022-12-03 23:28]: > There is significant difference between help and advice Tomas. > > Imagine you are struggling to carry a bundle of blankets through > a narrow door to a storage area, your hands are full, the blankets > are heavy, and one of them catches on the door. You ask a friend > to help you. He quickly goes to the door, unsticks the blanket > and tosses it up over the other blankets so that you can keep moving > forward. That is help. By thinking rigidly about "advice" and "help", advice is under help's jurisdiction, as it is how it says below. By {M-x wordnut-search RET advice RET}: advice -- (a proposal for an appropriate course of action) Most of help on a mailing list is in the form of advice. And by thinking flexibly, it is difficult to sense on distance what type of help is expected by person seeking help. That opens another question if people should try conforming expectations of type of help or if people should keep providing the best possible answer by their opinion. -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/