From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: tomas@tuxteam.de Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Of cars and mice [was: Easy to add with push but not to the end of a list] Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2022 20:54:04 +0100 Message-ID: References: <878rju96i5.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87y1ruw4w9.fsf@mbork.pl> <25477.63008.581520.69804@tux.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="c2rCZlYNxmvjQ2Ve" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="31799"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Dr Rainer Woitok Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 29 20:54:40 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1p06gi-00086V-8L for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 29 Nov 2022 20:54:40 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p06gG-0001iB-09; Tue, 29 Nov 2022 14:54:12 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p06gE-0001hs-AY for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Nov 2022 14:54:10 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.tuxteam.de ([5.199.139.25]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p06gB-00080p-EH for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Nov 2022 14:54:08 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuxteam.de; s=mail; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject :Cc:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=lcDmpLlmx2Sbmc3HJs1nh6Xmjjt/gXzWQdMOF8kijmg=; b=oV3lwjcWq5rTq0oCMuE7m3b3h5 ZgekhCwmN4RyPiG6U5qaints4jqNQh3ogtCYKXCJmn2R5CcfytHh9E50h7usVDQepp4a9s9SVReTR oqVVcMVLbOYaJ+oHn6pSS6srpwUBtLvz4VvJv8u6hlQDImmLqM73MtBJWA8+QGsGaQWqd1fvrAtAm fE3mhuT2M4wlbtOoryeYSImd7i/gt8vtwT/MdLArI8QxIqVzM7CuTcPtGJl46UN2TyWwIWH2xOrNM xJVdjHGfCIBEJJ+H780JCG28q9cyTdopqQrdiGem08GBFKCAPXduzNbyQk+mL3n1i1Rj7Oayk2WHd KLS04wDw==; Original-Received: from tomas by mail.tuxteam.de with local (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1p06g8-0006i9-FO; Tue, 29 Nov 2022 20:54:04 +0100 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <25477.63008.581520.69804@tux.local> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=5.199.139.25; envelope-from=tomas@tuxteam.de; helo=mail.tuxteam.de X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:141241 Archived-At: --c2rCZlYNxmvjQ2Ve Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Nov 29, 2022 at 01:08:00PM +0100, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Tomas, >=20 > On Tuesday, 2022-11-29 09:44:48 +0100, you wrote: >=20 > > ... > > There are big precedents out there (cf. for example Donald Knuth's > > WEB for TeX and METAFONT; it seems to have been in the air for > > some time -- vestiges of that can be found in the shells (if -- fi, > > case -- esac and so on; pity Lisp must have been a tad early; > > otherwise we might have car -- rac, definitely a better sound than > > cdr). >=20 > While this would be feasible for these two functions, it wouldn't work > for "caddr" and ilk :-) But, but... imagine car-rac-rac-rac (yes, with hyphens!). The sound! > I faintly remember discussions back in the early seventies to replace > "car" and "cdr" (which originally stood for "Contents of Address Regis- > ter" and "Contents of Decrement Register", respectively, and referred to > machine instructions on some then modern PDP hardware which were used to > access the two pointers of a cons) IBM 704, but we disgress badly. > with "fst" and "rst" (for "first" and > "rest", respectively) which could even be nicely combined to "frrst" and > similar. But this proposal never made it :-( Pity. Now where are the mice? ;-) Cheers --=20 t --c2rCZlYNxmvjQ2Ve Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EABECAB0WIQRp53liolZD6iXhAoIFyCz1etHaRgUCY4ZjXAAKCRAFyCz1etHa RuntAJ9VJjFly083+mQkjGomz9HbyXSAEgCfejzpabu/QeE3lTh3CPbWUPrwnEQ= =Rp6s -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --c2rCZlYNxmvjQ2Ve--