From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Morally equivalent Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2022 09:48:24 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87y1tfzhzm.fsf@undisclosedlocation.com> <877d0zfjqa.fsf@web.de> <87pmer9hrn.fsf@disroot.org> <83zgdv2bls.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ueNYcLnKTdL6bcVD" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="40707"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 17 09:52:54 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1okKve-000ARE-58 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2022 09:52:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40188 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1okKvc-0008Hv-2G for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2022 03:52:53 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44240) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1okKrP-00085p-7x for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2022 03:48:32 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.tuxteam.de ([5.199.139.25]:50578) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1okKrN-0004O6-Aw for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2022 03:48:30 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuxteam.de; s=mail; h=From:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID: Subject:To:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=KxpofccP3ZrO2bsK4v1Y1FCxYf1OalyUZFTw3MHxnQ8=; b=Ih4fbmD91F5sgG9gZ1HBsbGShj 6+d02/RkktN/kBZ5Z1rXHgv5omcbxUmeerU2qLSMMyK3igDPVwhOeGjbFeydum89CsbVZWPR5mr92 cVfjSzK7Z8p9H2vqieK1ULn5RZYlmeLqDjwvdfRaick5c5oJUeK/GSRq3Xcfx5Ca1kXvaF5FxCjRM iUgHjs2duUJuhU4WZb4rT2V6SecG8tAjLxMu9q7d/Wi7dhuc6cv5n73f1z9rS7YWotqKTy4qqvRdE Wcyl5l33yXjhethQ4gyNjyjYKSGi5am5TkGBuc+CfbEaqBqcPXHQTS9ttZGXUTrZJCuj+eXqTxZPZ +EfmuvAw==; Original-Received: from tomas by mail.tuxteam.de with local (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1okKrI-0002b9-GR for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2022 09:48:24 +0200 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <83zgdv2bls.fsf@gnu.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=5.199.139.25; envelope-from=tomas@tuxteam.de; helo=mail.tuxteam.de X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:140070 Archived-At: --ueNYcLnKTdL6bcVD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 09:44:15AM +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > From: Akib Azmain Turja > > Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > > Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2022 10:49:16 +0600 > >=20 > > This should be: > >=20 > > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > > This is almost equivalent to (setf PLACE (cons NEWELT PLACE)), > > except that PLACE is evaluated only once (after NEWELT). > > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- >=20 > Why not just "This is similar to"? Back to topic, yes. It seems that this phrase is too jargon-ish to be easily understandable to everyone. >=20 > > Anyway, I enjoy occasionally finding things like "morally equivalent" in > > Emacs. >=20 > Yeah, it's amazing how much noise can an innocent phrase cause around > here. Documentation is hard, after all. Cheers --=20 t --ueNYcLnKTdL6bcVD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EABECAB0WIQRp53liolZD6iXhAoIFyCz1etHaRgUCY00IwQAKCRAFyCz1etHa Roy3AJ4hvXV8TQWzdLBvcxJk71BMVKj2LACeOuAxw9kJiQD9Crs64u+j1c7BW0U= =w/o9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ueNYcLnKTdL6bcVD--