From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Unexpected fill-paragraph behaviour in message-mode Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2023 22:07:28 +0300 Message-ID: References: <87r0uu2wu3.fsf@rak.ac> <83edqtg037.fsf@gnu.org> <20230213144113.igujfoal7ervxifu@asteria.rak.ac> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="18793"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/2.2.9+54 (af2080d) (2022-11-21) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Ryan Kavanagh Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 13 20:10:06 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pReDG-0004g7-6v for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 13 Feb 2023 20:10:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pReCh-0007TN-2p; Mon, 13 Feb 2023 14:09:31 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pReCe-0007T7-0G for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Feb 2023 14:09:28 -0500 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pReCc-0004QN-Bv for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Feb 2023 14:09:27 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:197.239.6.48]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 0000000000103956.0000000063EA8AE5.000010BF; Mon, 13 Feb 2023 12:09:25 -0700 Mail-Followup-To: Ryan Kavanagh , help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20230213144113.igujfoal7ervxifu@asteria.rak.ac> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -17 X-Spam_score: -1.8 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_SBL=0.141, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:142743 Archived-At: * Ryan Kavanagh [2023-02-13 17:42]: > Is there an alternate mode I should be using when compose emails > with non-emacs MUAs? I use all time best e-mail client for Emacs, also known as Mutt. I know it is external and non-Emacs. My setting is peculiar: macro compose 0 ":set editor=mutt-record-email.lisp:set editor=emacsclient" as I like to record e-mail externally, for statistics and other macros, but normal setting would be: set editor=emacsclient > Looking at the source in message.el, it usually finds the separation > between header and body using: > > (re-search-forward > (concat "^" (regexp-quote mail-header-separator) "$") > > It would be nice to be able to use emacs as an editor with non-emacs > MUAs The above is not much relevant to your quest. Any external MUA can use Emacs either directly by "emacs" command or "emacsclient". > so I wonder if I shouldn't file a bug report asking message.el to > fallback on the RFC (and set mail-header-separator to "") in the cases > where "--text follows this line--" is missing. I may say how I do it: M-x mail to compose e-mails. I have more easier way to do it, I can compose directly to all people by single click, where my identity and recipient, including Cc, Bcc is all setup correctly. Mail is first saved in file, and later sorted in Maildirs, e-mail is dispatched. To read e-mails, I use Mutt The Mutt E-Mail Client: http://mutt.org/ and I am so much more efficient than with any Emacs client, but any MUA can be used, including Thunderbird, it has external editor option (or internal). -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/