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From: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
To: Bruno Barbier <brubar.cs@gmail.com>
Cc: Edgar Vincent <e-v@posteo.net>, eliz@gnu.org, help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Why does (file-exists-p "") return t?
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2023 14:28:55 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y+d79xn1QEojXjGy@protected.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <63e7697c.1c0a0220.a6be.a36d@mx.google.com>

* Bruno Barbier <brubar.cs@gmail.com> [2023-02-11 13:10]:
> > * Edgar Vincent <e-v@posteo.net> [2023-02-10 00:11]:
> >> I didn’t know that file-exists-p used expand-file-name, but it does seem obvious.
> >
> > To avoid the problem maybe you should use `expand-file-name' before
> > you check it with `file-exists-p'
> >
> > As otherwise you may check the wrong path.
> 
> Why ?
> 
> One of the first thing `file-exists-p' is doing is to call
> `expand-file-name' to expand the file name.  I don't see how calling
> `expand-file-name' before would help.

I understand you and I am sure in most use cases it is not necessary
as it will be expanded later. 

Sometimes I wish to expand it before for reason that
`default-directory' sometimes changes:

- practically, I sometimes wish to have "/home/user/public_html" as part of
  directory, and to check for file existence only if that is part of
  the path.

- When I use Tramp, my program my give me wrong answer by design, as I
  maybe did not want to check anything on remote system, but program
  is not aware of it by alone.

Of course, to avoid similar cases, I can keep `default-directory':

(let ((default-directory "something"))
 (before doing something else))

There is pertinent use case where I am receiving "" from database, and
instead of `expand-file-name' I want to consider it "no file name",
and checking would take place only when there is no empty string, as
otherwis I would get information how file exists for "" which is not
meant to be by design.

-- 
Jean

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-11 11:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-09 10:41 Why does (file-exists-p "") return t? Edgar Vincent
2023-02-09 10:56 ` Gregory Heytings
2023-02-09 11:10   ` Edgar Vincent
2023-02-09 13:36     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-09 21:05       ` Edgar Vincent
2023-02-10  4:20         ` Jean Louis
2023-02-11 10:10           ` Bruno Barbier
2023-02-11 11:28             ` Jean Louis [this message]
2023-02-11 19:34               ` Bruno Barbier
2023-02-11 10:39           ` Eli Zaretskii

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