From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Which modifier to use? Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2020 21:01:32 +0300 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="17724"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/2.0 (3d08634) (2020-11-07) Cc: Stefan =?utf-8?Q?M=C3=B6ding?= , help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 05 19:04:12 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1klbul-0004UC-IK for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 05 Dec 2020 19:04:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36866 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1klbuk-0004zZ-Jy for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 05 Dec 2020 13:04:10 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37082) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1klbtr-0004yJ-BX for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Dec 2020 13:03:15 -0500 Original-Received: from static.rcdrun.com ([95.85.24.50]:45287) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1klbtp-0002KW-VM for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Dec 2020 13:03:15 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:197.157.0.57]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.2,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by static.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 00000000002C000E.000000005FCBCB5F.00007C22; Sat, 05 Dec 2020 18:03:11 +0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=95.85.24.50; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=static.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: 14 X-Spam_score: 1.4 X-Spam_bar: + X-Spam_report: (1.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_SBL_CSS=3.335, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:126036 Archived-At: * Drew Adams [2020-12-05 18:53]: > > > (define-prefix-command 'stm-launcher-map) > > > (global-set-key (kbd "s-z") 'stm-launcher-map) > > > > Thank you. This is good and useful tip. Then I could do s-z for new > > map and get plethora of other keys. I did not know it works that way > > nicely. > > > > > (define-key stm-launcher-map (kbd "=") #'ipcalc-at-point) > ... > > In that case, you asked the wrong question. > That answer, which I guess is what you were > really looking for, is about using a _prefix > key_, not a modifier key. Completely > different animal. I am looking for shortest keys. If prefix or not I do not mind. Prefix seem more useful as I have many functions that would not fit onto keyboard. There are functions for people that are maybe 30-50 and I wish to put it logically. So while modifier is more useful and shorter, practically I have not get enough modifiers for all functions. > And yes, prefix keys are wonderful. When > bound to keymaps they also let you easily move > whole sets of commands/keys around as units. > > E.g.: A library can identify a set of commands > that belong together in UI terms, by putting > them on a keymap. And it can put that keymap > (optionally, i.e., under user control) on a > given prefix key by default. But a user can > easily move that whole set of commands and > their bindings from the default prefix key to > another prefix key. That is good point for me to follow.