From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Auto Fill Comments Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2020 16:44:32 +0300 Message-ID: References: <20201126160013.GD28931@tuxteam.de> <20201126182734.GA5175@tuxteam.de> <54331aa0-6a9a-4809-9f2d-88deee31558b@default> <83pn3zp8bu.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="20181"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/2.0 (3d08634) (2020-11-07) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, Arthur Miller To: Christopher Dimech Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 27 14:46:28 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kie4x-00059F-W0 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2020 14:46:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33508 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kie4x-00088F-27 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2020 08:46:27 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48450) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kie3l-0007Bg-QU for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2020 08:45:13 -0500 Original-Received: from static.rcdrun.com ([95.85.24.50]:44099) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kie3j-0006F1-WD for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2020 08:45:13 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:197.157.0.29]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.2,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by static.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 00000000002C0003.000000005FC102E5.00000D5A; Fri, 27 Nov 2020 13:45:09 +0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=95.85.24.50; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=static.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -3 X-Spam_score: -0.4 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (-0.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.5, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:125663 Archived-At: * Christopher Dimech [2020-11-27 12:25]: > The programming craft is in the source code. The documentation is to help > understand it. Could be even harder than writing the code. It makes a > convenient listing if you know what you're doing. It's not always the failure > of readers. On that last sentence that is so. It is not always the failure of readers. For instructional manuals of any kind, within or without Emacs or computing, I think that reader shall be qualified or qualification level shall be stated before reading it. Books for young toddlers may be written on thick paper as that is appropriate. Teenagers read pretty complex biology or have science books, but definitely not as complex as the same subject of science at some university. Emacs is not beginner editor. It is not simple or plain editor. It is advanced editor and it is meant for advanced human editors. So the manual is also meant for advanced human editors. The Emacs Editor **************** Emacs is the advanced, extensible, customizable, self-documenting editor. There is just one problem with that. How can user become advance human editor if one does not use Emacs already? Or does not get access to quality Emacs manual? That is how we get advanced users and those who are yet to become.