From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bob Nelson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: GNU.org is down Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 07:53:23 GMT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <87oeuht8d8.fsf@thalassa.informatimago.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1071216225 31180 80.91.224.253 (12 Dec 2003 08:03:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 08:03:45 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 12 09:03:42 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AUiGz-0000U7-00 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:03:41 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AUjD1-0002nD-1Y for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 04:03:39 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!elnk-nf2-pas!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net.POSTED!2b9f14ce!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: tin/1.5.12-20020427 ("Sugar") (UNIX) (Linux/2.4.23 (i686)) Original-Lines: 19 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.157.126.100 Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net Original-X-Trace: newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net 1071215603 64.157.126.100 (Thu, 11 Dec 2003 23:53:23 PST) Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 23:53:23 PST Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:119246 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:15185 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:15185 David Kastrup wrote: > Maintaining a consistent high level of security causes a severe drain > of usability and accessibility (as you have noticed), and it also > requires considerable human resources permanently. > What kind of people gleefully cause a considerable permanent damage to > a charity instead of elsewhere "just" for the hope of monetary gains? > I hope that they are found and dealt with in proportion to their > crime and the impact it will have. ``Dealing'' with the ``crime'' implies punishment, unless I misread your intent, David. But that only addresses the symptom. - Instead the objective should be to find out what may have motivated such a course of action from the individual(s) involved. Perhaps there are cultural or ethical differences that need to be taken into account, appreciated and understood.