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From: Barry Margolin <barry.margolin@level3.com>
Subject: Re: Oldest running Emacs version
Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 23:08:35 GMT	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <T9Cta.27$J33.1411@paloalto-snr1.gtei.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: mailman.5607.1052174541.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org

In article <mailman.5607.1052174541.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>,
Niels Freimann  <nfreimann@firemail.de> wrote:
>On Monday 05 May 2003 21:53, Barry Margolin wrote:
>> ITS/TOPS-20 EMACS is customized in TECO, not Lisp
>
>I already mentioned that in my first message. *emacs* isn't 
>ITS/TOPS-20 emacs, but Bernies Multics emacs, and the 
>machine with the *running its" in real is a PC or something 
>running an pdp-10 emulator. 

Since Multics Emacs ran on Multics, and was never ported to any other OS, I
really doubt that this is what you're seeing.  It's almost certainly ITS
EMACS, which runs on PDP-10/20 machines running ITS or TOPS-20.  ITS EMACS
is the grand-daddy of all Emacs and Emacs-like editors.  They all share the
same basic commands (e.g. the ones you learn in the tutorial), as well as
the overall UI philosophy (buffers, major and minor modes, etc.), but
diverge when you start looking at the less commonly used features (like
they all have Dired, but differ in the commands that are available within
it).

This is mostly just due to normal evolutionary processes.  Development of
ITS EMACS and Multics Emacs stopped in the early 80's.  GNU Emacs was born
around that time, with most of the features that the predecessors had, and
has since had hundreds of developers adding things to it.  Throughout all
of this it has still retained much of the core; a time traveler coming from
1980 would have little difficulty using GNU Emacs.

-- 
Barry Margolin, barry.margolin@level3.com
Genuity Managed Services, a Level(3) Company, Woburn, MA
*** DON'T SEND TECHNICAL QUESTIONS DIRECTLY TO ME, post them to newsgroups.
Please DON'T copy followups to me -- I'll assume it wasn't posted to the group.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-05-05 23:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-05-02 22:35 Oldest running Emacs version Luis Fernandes
2003-05-02 23:15 ` Jesper Harder
2003-05-02 23:31   ` Barry Margolin
2003-05-03  0:08     ` Jesper Harder
2003-05-03 17:36       ` Karl Eichwalder
2003-05-04  1:51         ` Jesper Harder
2003-05-05 19:53           ` Barry Margolin
2003-05-05 22:37             ` Niels Freimann
     [not found]             ` <mailman.5607.1052174541.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-05-05 23:08               ` Barry Margolin [this message]
2003-05-06  8:48                 ` Niels Freimann
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.5614.1052211157.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-05-06 15:31                   ` Barry Margolin
2003-05-07  2:20                   ` Bijan Soleymani
2003-05-06  0:43             ` Jym Dyer
2003-05-05  8:59         ` Tim X
2003-05-03  1:40   ` Niels Freimann
2003-05-03  2:41   ` Luis Fernandes
2003-05-03  3:29     ` Bijan Soleymani
     [not found]   ` <mailman.5520.1051926159.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-05-03  3:31     ` Bijan Soleymani
2003-05-07 14:34 ` Luis Fernandes
2003-05-10  0:58   ` Brian Masinick
2003-05-11 21:43     ` Why 19.34? [Oldest running Emacs version] Alan Mackenzie
2003-05-12  8:41       ` Kai Großjohann
2003-05-12 18:13       ` Edward O'Connor
2003-05-12 20:12       ` Brian Masinick
2003-05-12 20:19         ` Henrik Enberg
2003-05-12 20:46           ` Brian Masinick
2003-05-13  1:30             ` David Madore
2003-05-14  8:20             ` Dave Pearson
2003-05-15 22:20     ` Oldest running Emacs version Patrick Scheible
2003-05-10 14:06   ` Massimiliano Mirra - bard
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-05-04  7:03 Niels Freimann
     [not found] <mailman.5547.1052031922.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-05-04 13:02 ` Kai Großjohann
2003-05-04 14:30 ` Jesper Harder
2003-05-04 15:18   ` Niels Freimann
2003-05-04 22:06   ` Martti Halminen

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