From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "David Vanderschel" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: New symptom and code Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 02:05:38 GMT Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <0ivGc.18253$T72.289@fe2.texas.rr.com> <40EAEC5D.8040603@yahoo.com> <40EC1F05.6060008@yahoo.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1089252496 3775 80.91.224.253 (8 Jul 2004 02:08:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 02:08:16 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 08 04:08:09 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BiOKX-0000RL-00 for ; Thu, 08 Jul 2004 04:08:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BiOMd-0005Te-6S for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 22:10:19 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeed.news.ucla.edu!cyclone.bc.net!HSNX.atgi.net!cyclone-sf.pbi.net!216.196.106.144!border2.nntp.sjc.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!cyclone.austin.rr.com!fe1.texas.rr.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 51 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.68.174.193 Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com Original-X-Trace: fe1.texas.rr.com 1089252338 66.68.174.193 (Wed, 07 Jul 2004 21:05:38 CDT) Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 21:05:38 CDT Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:124180 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:19511 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:19511 "David Kastrup" wrote in message news:x5oemsfw3n.fsf@lola.goethe.zz... > "David Vanderschel" writes: > > Well, when I try that, what I see in the echo area is > > "First line^JSecond line^JThird line" > > which is not acceptable. > You are confusing the output of the message command with its return > value. Obviously, if you use M-x eval-expression RET, then the last > thing that gets displayed is the evaled expression. Nonsense. I was not doing it with M-x eval-expression in the first place. I was writing the function call in a buffer and executing it with eval-last-sexp. What I see in the echo area is all that I care about, and it is not coming out as I wish - no matter how I manage to invoke message. "Kevin Rodgers" wrote in message news:40EC1F05.6060008@yahoo.com... > That's what happens for me in Emacs 19.34. But in Emacs 21.3 it behaves > as desired. Ahhh! So my 20.7.3 is probably obsolete in this manner also. However, I do not want to force users of my program to upgrade their emacs, so this revelation about improvement in 21.3 does not really help either. Since what I am doing is logically a pop-up, I decided the easiest solution would be to just create a new, temporary frame for it. Then I have complete control, and I do not get surprised by the subtleties of minibuffers or the echo area. Though I have given up on both the echo area and the minibuffer approaches, I would still like to understand my strange symptoms with the minibuffer if only on principle. I was really hoping that someone could point me to some clarifying documentation which had escaped my attention. Regards, David V.