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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: "'Help-Gnu-Emacs (help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org)'" <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
Cc: Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu>
Subject: FW: [External] : Re: Lexical vs. dynamic: small examples?
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2021 15:42:21 +0000	[thread overview]
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In-Reply-To: 87y293sdxk.fsf@zoho.eu

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> > "Dynamic scope" is a misnomer, BTW; it means only that - no
> > particular scope and dynamic extent [...] `let' provides
> > a lexical binding - the scope ends where the `let'
> > ends, lexically.
> 
> But with `let' doesn't the scope end where the let ends even
> for dynamic binding?

No.  Dynamic bindings have indefinite scope - that is,
no particular scope.

The binding has dynamic _extent_ - it lasts _as long as_
(time) the code in the `let' body is executing (which
can include nonlocal exits by that code (or code called
by that code) - e.g. `throw').

For such a variable the `let' does not define a scope;
it only determines which code realizes the binding's
duration.

Scope and extent (duration for referencing) are two
different things.

See the CLTL chapter I pointed to.

> If it isn't only about let, what is it about more?

`let' is not the only construct that can define a
scope.  For example, a function definition (a `defun'
or a lambda) defines the scope of its formal
parameters - they're lexically scoped.

Again, I recommend that CLTL chapter.  It's short, and
it explains things well, including with examples.

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Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-14  3:34 Lexical vs. dynamic: small examples? Eduardo Ochs
2021-08-14  3:56 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-14  4:12   ` Eduardo Ochs
2021-08-14  7:35 ` tomas
2021-08-14 16:00   ` Eduardo Ochs
2021-08-14 19:41     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-14 20:42     ` tomas
2021-08-14 19:31   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-14 20:31     ` tomas
2021-08-14 21:26       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-14 21:29         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-14 13:35 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-08-14 16:15   ` Eduardo Ochs
2021-08-14 19:00 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-08-14 20:16   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-14 20:23     ` Gregory Heytings
2021-08-14 21:05       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-14 21:13         ` tomas
2021-08-14 21:28           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-14 20:41   ` tomas
2021-08-15  0:29   ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-08-15  0:52     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-15  1:04     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-15  1:18     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-15  4:44       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-15  5:02         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-15 15:49         ` Drew Adams
2021-08-15 18:49           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-15 21:55             ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-15 22:04               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-15 21:57             ` Drew Adams
2021-08-15 22:20               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-15 22:54                 ` Drew Adams
2021-08-15 23:16               ` Drew Adams
2022-01-09  7:08                 ` Jean Louis
2022-01-09 15:03                   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-15 23:42               ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-15 22:02             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-08-15 22:22               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-15 22:44                 ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-21  3:38                   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-24  2:08                     ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-25 23:34                       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-25 23:40                         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-26  0:10                           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-26  0:44                             ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-26 17:01                               ` FW: " Drew Adams
2021-08-26 23:05                                 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-25 23:46                         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-25 23:47                         ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-26  0:57                           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-28  1:36                           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-28  1:41                           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-15 22:44               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-15 22:58                 ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-15 23:13                   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-15 23:56                     ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-16  0:43                       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-15 15:42       ` Drew Adams [this message]

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