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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Emanuel Berg <incal@dataswamp.org>,
	"help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
Subject: RE: standard libraries again (was: Re: [External] : Re: completing-read depricated initial-input)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2022 17:39:28 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <SJ0PR10MB5488697F244FD72A47B1E2BEF3B29@SJ0PR10MB5488.namprd10.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877d58pu3g.fsf_-_@dataswamp.org>

> > An Elisp "library" is a "package" with or without any
> > additional package-handling paraphernalia.
> 
> I think we should have standard libraries like for example
> C with the aspiration for uniformness and general usefulness
> for a broad range of purposes ... the rest would be libraries
> or simply programs (and no such assumptions could then be
> made), and last if it's bundled in the Elisp package way, then
> it's a package of course.

"Library" in Emacs/Elisp has long meant what I said.

Lisp files (e.g. `dired.el') or sets of files (e.g.
Gnus) included with Emacs (perhaps autoloaded) are
referred to as libraries.

You don't need to download them separately.  And
being part of Emacs, they're "standard", if you like.

And they're typically not packages.  The only ones
that are also packages are (I think) those that are
also available from a package repository.  I think
this is the case for Org, for example.



  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-22 17:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-21  7:56 completing-read depricated initial-input carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
     [not found] ` <N54Fw5q--3-2@tutanota.com-N54INof----2>
2022-06-21  9:51   ` carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-06-21 11:19     ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-06-21 12:39       ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-21 12:46         ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-06-21 14:04           ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-06-21 14:10             ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-06-21 14:49               ` Drew Adams
2022-06-22  8:50     ` Jean Louis
2022-06-22  9:32       ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-21 10:26 ` Robert Pluim
2022-06-21 11:15   ` carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-06-21 12:39 ` Christopher Dimech
2022-06-21 14:09   ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-06-21 18:21     ` Arash Esbati
2022-06-21 19:04       ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-21 20:41       ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-06-21 21:28         ` Arash Esbati
2022-06-21 22:07           ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-06-21 22:56             ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-22 13:43               ` Drew Adams
2022-06-22 15:59                 ` standard libraries again (was: Re: [External] : Re: completing-read depricated initial-input) Emanuel Berg
2022-06-22 17:39                   ` Drew Adams [this message]
2022-06-22 18:05                     ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-22 20:53                       ` Drew Adams
2022-06-22 21:18                         ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-23  7:59             ` completing-read depricated initial-input Arash Esbati
2022-06-23 10:06               ` carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-06-23 20:57                 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-23 11:19               ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-06-23 12:12                 ` Arash Esbati
2022-06-23 14:52                   ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-06-23 16:30                     ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-06-23 16:41                       ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-06-23 18:27                         ` Christopher Dimech
2022-06-23 21:14                         ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-23 18:25                       ` RE: [External] : " Christopher Dimech
2022-06-23 21:13                       ` [External] : " Emanuel Berg
2022-06-23 21:07                     ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-23 21:06                   ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-23 14:36                 ` Jean Louis
2022-06-24  2:35                   ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-24  6:59                     ` Jean Louis
2022-06-23 15:19                 ` Jean Louis
2022-06-23 15:24                 ` Jean Louis
2022-06-23 21:05                 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-06-23 22:10                   ` Christopher Dimech
2022-06-23 22:19                     ` Stefan Monnier
2022-06-23 22:28                       ` Christopher Dimech
2022-06-24  7:08                     ` Jean Louis
2022-06-24  8:19                       ` Christopher Dimech
2022-06-24 11:00                         ` Jean Louis
2022-06-24 16:58                           ` Christopher Dimech
2022-06-24  8:19                       ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-24 11:31                         ` Jean Louis
2022-06-25 18:54                           ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-25 19:51                             ` Jean Louis
2022-06-26 17:36                               ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-24 14:30                         ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-06-24 19:33                           ` RE: [External] : " Christopher Dimech
2022-06-25 19:12                           ` [External] : " Emanuel Berg
2022-06-25 21:26                             ` Drew Adams
2022-06-26 17:39                               ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-26 22:22                                 ` Drew Adams
2022-06-26 22:42                                   ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-24  0:10                   ` Drew Adams
2022-06-24  8:09                     ` RE: [External] : " Christopher Dimech
2022-06-24  2:29                   ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-23 16:23               ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-06-23 20:58                 ` Arash Esbati
2022-06-23 21:54                   ` Christopher Dimech
2022-06-24  2:49                   ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-22  3:09           ` Po Lu
2022-06-22  3:46             ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-22  4:56             ` Christopher Dimech
2022-06-23  8:20             ` Arash Esbati
2022-06-23  8:27               ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-23  8:57                 ` Tassilo Horn
2022-06-23 10:10                   ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-23 11:26                     ` Tassilo Horn
2022-06-23 11:48                       ` carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-06-23 21:38                         ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-24  8:03                           ` Christopher Dimech
2022-06-23 21:34                       ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-23 11:58                     ` Arash Esbati
2022-06-23 12:10                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-06-23 14:26                         ` Tassilo Horn
2022-06-23 14:46                           ` Arash Esbati
2022-06-23 15:18                             ` Robert Pluim
2022-06-23 20:46                               ` Arash Esbati
2022-06-24  8:40                                 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-06-24  2:22                             ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-24  2:17                           ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-23 21:49                         ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-23 21:42                       ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-23 16:25                   ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-06-23 19:56                     ` Tassilo Horn
2022-06-24 11:23                       ` carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-06-24 11:36                         ` Jean Louis
2022-06-25 19:01                           ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-25 21:26                             ` Drew Adams
2022-06-22  2:59         ` RE: [External] : " Christopher Dimech

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