From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: RE: [External] : Re: Calling a function with undefined symbol Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2022 21:40:16 +0000 Message-ID: References: <87wn8dzh6o.fsf@web.de> <877d0d8g3e.fsf@web.de> <87zgd9ot4p.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87r0yk9tw6.fsf@web.de> <87o7toi68e.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87tu3egbj2.fsf@web.de> <87sfixfp5p.fsf@dataswamp.org> <874jvd9eb1.fsf@web.de> <87leonbzy1.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87v8nqlpjk.fsf@web.de> <87wn86ogg8.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87a65178ah.fsf@web.de> <87cz9m7m6k.fsf@dataswamp.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-7" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="15464"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: Emanuel Berg , "help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 16 22:41:55 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ovQAK-0003hs-U6 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 16 Nov 2022 22:41:53 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ovQ9H-00032q-DR; Wed, 16 Nov 2022 16:40:47 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ovQ9E-00032e-3L for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Nov 2022 16:40:44 -0500 Original-Received: from mx0b-00069f02.pphosted.com ([205.220.177.32]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ovQ92-0000AX-2c for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Nov 2022 16:40:42 -0500 Original-Received: from pps.filterd (m0246632.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by mx0b-00069f02.pphosted.com (8.17.1.19/8.17.1.19) with ESMTP id 2AGLatR9016835; Wed, 16 Nov 2022 21:40:19 GMT DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=oracle.com; h=from : to : subject : date : message-id : references : in-reply-to : content-type : content-transfer-encoding : mime-version; s=corp-2022-7-12; bh=HHQNyr6u1EUwKGohpoAfKMEp7sR9EOctukOilWo91Vw=; b=oAw/BjYHTyk308yWsO7O24Ep5A8FhR7c1Np2ja8mBYE2Gnlz0CTHbzG14h3s/TRD/a2v yT3GbSklRCA2v7Ra7lY8efLw8BBs+kcHOA1zIxjoW+6HUDH10ynqIxo1N8XP9TCsTZgJ OMZuYmuqgJcJ3eQzHqMjDigNxFJg8FvV0e6EahFgNt0KklC+jN+zcWgttf2FexSeZJHX Dc/eAy6zKNaKzP2CBh0d5ahzgbQ28IUEIA8zLITESOChKBE2q1Ti9HkNS51zigl/e+ae X19svvBMswxucMIS0KR+03l34mX394crvRxYRQUwvk6JFgTypGtJzrLoqnToEAOYfJZd sQ== Original-Received: from iadpaimrmta02.imrmtpd1.prodappiadaev1.oraclevcn.com (iadpaimrmta02.appoci.oracle.com [147.154.18.20]) by mx0b-00069f02.pphosted.com (PPS) with ESMTPS id 3kv3htxt2m-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 16 Nov 2022 21:40:18 +0000 Original-Received: from pps.filterd (iadpaimrmta02.imrmtpd1.prodappiadaev1.oraclevcn.com [127.0.0.1]) by iadpaimrmta02.imrmtpd1.prodappiadaev1.oraclevcn.com (8.17.1.5/8.17.1.5) with ESMTP id 2AGKl9Ut012556; Wed, 16 Nov 2022 21:40:18 GMT Original-Received: from nam04-dm6-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-dm6nam04lp2046.outbound.protection.outlook.com [104.47.73.46]) by iadpaimrmta02.imrmtpd1.prodappiadaev1.oraclevcn.com (PPS) with ESMTPS id 3kt1xee535-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 16 Nov 2022 21:40:18 +0000 ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; s=arcselector9901; d=microsoft.com; cv=none; b=blN4sPJRnx8mxqrW3kR7Evj/kzSiwS1OJ/Ibn1kdQ34ofn2McFaGRphj4rIhYEZc9LHh1YqKcFRlYfxOKJTI7IEHnw58fjXKWC6IKjh8lGqoEXpBrH+oQkwWdA09QsrU4tVS34EeCSid8lUyAy0xv0uE93yI3taLaC6Swl0QmoumAbcErXJRMSVEqeQKX6Xjy3sYGT7HMNQaiV21AqPXITxzbTBlZwPvUG8Iy9TsApFxGlykBnfyC6XPpB7vPn+Sr/En8pzl9eK6onJCSRX3/0UDgrVRhkBLJJ3eIPGAarC24FNDLVqjSjNyvA47mOHQHAC0RihFj27PmXhEwx+YbA== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=microsoft.com; s=arcselector9901; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version:X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-MessageData-ChunkCount:X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-MessageData-0:X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-MessageData-1; bh=HHQNyr6u1EUwKGohpoAfKMEp7sR9EOctukOilWo91Vw=; b=BQf5jDfRdvGUdo7cULP3NKxulMN1Kw6oYRLkuQPBOItXr/HDErQefcwrZC1uNV3GZK+D/nk6bxcTU+Zy4sVuREOuNkdyc1J8C5D2JAqXqJEsfvlAkHi01hgB9Wz9Msh1Esgb5dRcu6BU8pQhZ0GEATC3J2qYXiJHJZ/VnWifsI+yv9BQfvXlnEZa2duuphdfXdbG8+G22bmsLZFha+yVZ7A5k9dKEy7yGkSqthjQCP6f70awpELOjIzrT23H1bDRu9cW9N8I4l4cEMpk5HiBbRzhc0FYmpuW1Dm2vmMSrVZgWWse3opidFnEmcuJCLranFBAH/v9y9JhBaYEL9YMYA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.microsoft.com 1; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=oracle.com; dmarc=pass action=none header.from=oracle.com; dkim=pass header.d=oracle.com; arc=none DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=oracle.onmicrosoft.com; s=selector2-oracle-onmicrosoft-com; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version:X-MS-Exchange-SenderADCheck; bh=HHQNyr6u1EUwKGohpoAfKMEp7sR9EOctukOilWo91Vw=; b=YE4nac1QEmdJttKtw+/JGJrSfAgpp8dnyOKu0R7tYz5WyP+Ud8zYTWVi63KOiHDVpK+BcbNI5Gsx/7b7kzmo/JRLzl4RTeyiCYFIngRdHQ+eAjIsS2fwnySapK+jtqTtM2dXK/T2hkcoiCiagHOT39m+UgqWL4rkomOB5MOTdYw= Original-Received: from SJ0PR10MB5488.namprd10.prod.outlook.com (2603:10b6:a03:37e::19) by DM6PR10MB4220.namprd10.prod.outlook.com (2603:10b6:5:221::23) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.5813.18; Wed, 16 Nov 2022 21:40:16 +0000 Original-Received: from SJ0PR10MB5488.namprd10.prod.outlook.com ([fe80::6951:297b:f3d5:2588]) by SJ0PR10MB5488.namprd10.prod.outlook.com ([fe80::6951:297b:f3d5:2588%9]) with mapi id 15.20.5813.019; Wed, 16 Nov 2022 21:40:16 +0000 Thread-Topic: [External] : Re: Calling a function with undefined symbol Thread-Index: AQHY+e6tk6+cD3h7aEmyepzxx3qUyq5CDJMA In-Reply-To: <87cz9m7m6k.fsf@dataswamp.org> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-ms-publictraffictype: Email x-ms-traffictypediagnostic: SJ0PR10MB5488:EE_|DM6PR10MB4220:EE_ x-ms-office365-filtering-correlation-id: 6c2aeeef-87d6-419b-3e99-08dac81b268a x-ms-exchange-senderadcheck: 1 x-ms-exchange-antispam-relay: 0 x-microsoft-antispam: BCL:0; x-microsoft-antispam-message-info: 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 hS6GOSOM1At2Ym6LkSjGLnYQytJyYXn/LqE6LbLfcW8DXY= x-forefront-antispam-report: CIP:255.255.255.255; CTRY:; LANG:en; SCL:1; SRV:; IPV:NLI; SFV:NSPM; H:SJ0PR10MB5488.namprd10.prod.outlook.com; PTR:; CAT:NONE; SFS:(13230022)(366004)(396003)(136003)(376002)(346002)(39860400002)(451199015)(110136005)(26005)(38100700002)(41300700001)(55016003)(44832011)(38070700005)(71200400001)(2906002)(122000001)(86362001)(478600001)(7696005)(8936002)(33656002)(52536014)(316002)(83380400001)(66446008)(66946007)(66556008)(64756008)(76116006)(66476007)(5660300002)(9686003)(6506007)(8676002)(966005)(186003); DIR:OUT; SFP:1101; x-ms-exchange-antispam-messagedata-chunkcount: 1 x-ms-exchange-antispam-messagedata-0: =?iso-8859-7?Q?IMdvU02ruhJzvZ7jEr9nAQNdY2NYxUoW5QZa6DPWa4t6Rz9O7K0n+OyDNB?= =?iso-8859-7?Q?K7xnNNxFJsffGJIpLrqr6+Jw59ia/21fWDOL8tKCziSsjc7D/MAmyXslRX?= =?iso-8859-7?Q?Iz9NK4WymUNGZzWaACwqju3osVAZchXnEsFkZ12kb5bSCBP9j25MCTKOWH?= =?iso-8859-7?Q?I13OTu9BZYVWUZ8U0e2YF4J9p9ptQMrXzJVxDtRF2UU9Txk5H5aVFOEnDB?= =?iso-8859-7?Q?U4uDAl98rRMLY3svaBZ5Lo0grtTrUay8J5cur7tAoVNvc49qZb2XeK/4iD?= =?iso-8859-7?Q?LBPpVLIvaqyqrrQfUh8EV6pNHpk+aOKumuM2mFLJhuUGohHyPyVExXDudh?= =?iso-8859-7?Q?SBrG9Bng2yuvbaqtsMFk6x5RiUnOA0+tRfL5GoyE6tO9S71g1cMHGxxtLO?= =?iso-8859-7?Q?q+W4M0007JsL72lDQeRsaMw1SXiyEqO2EdcN8dAgEAu5zzjz+sHJbVYSF7?= =?iso-8859-7?Q?YGC6sCR/VuvCLs4tiz+iiG4sGmCxNxc2j+dLVrDGAze37gwMzmKmvLlUzU?= =?iso-8859-7?Q?NCVdmn/VqB4lshGbZpVJjrV7Y1qd5XDU5f+65+GygyOi4EYPeDIB9YBysL?= =?iso-8859-7?Q?FZ/gSkiKgihYWahQmcJzbauMU1MrG1HqNCYgvFvxtSYHJLQvK74ys8TQ4L?= =?iso-8859-7?Q? X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-ExternalHop-MessageData-ChunkCount: 1 X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-ExternalHop-MessageData-0: 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 2NeJU83qzX2HANT8zeW37cY1otxqpruBYG3KKALQ== X-OriginatorOrg: oracle.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthAs: Internal X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthSource: SJ0PR10MB5488.namprd10.prod.outlook.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 6c2aeeef-87d6-419b-3e99-08dac81b268a X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 16 Nov 2022 21:40:16.2456 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 4e2c6054-71cb-48f1-bd6c-3a9705aca71b X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-mailboxtype: HOSTED X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-userprincipalname: oCESF1a+7uv1luHZqqSWHQfVys/+cDJydpfRfRiCOfnv41LUj31k6Mrar9eDedV3eqSlExACbe2TN+4lFDIhFw== X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: DM6PR10MB4220 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=baseguard engine=ICAP:2.0.219,Aquarius:18.0.895,Hydra:6.0.545,FMLib:17.11.122.1 definitions=2022-11-16_03,2022-11-16_01,2022-06-22_01 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 mlxlogscore=400 bulkscore=0 mlxscore=0 phishscore=0 suspectscore=0 spamscore=0 adultscore=0 malwarescore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2210170000 definitions=main-2211160147 X-Proofpoint-GUID: b2MEz25T09jXs4zgs0KHXmpZDizh8Cd8 X-Proofpoint-ORIG-GUID: b2MEz25T09jXs4zgs0KHXmpZDizh8Cd8 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=205.220.177.32; envelope-from=drew.adams@oracle.com; helo=mx0b-00069f02.pphosted.com X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SPF_HELO_TEMPERROR=0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:141025 Archived-At: > When we have say - I don't know how many - we will have Drew > mail the Emacs Wiki maintainer and ask if he can add it > there ... Hm. I've said this several times before, but once more... _Anyone_ can create and edit pages on Emacs Wiki. And the home page tells you this and how to do it. https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/SiteMap See the "How to use this site" links on that page. In particular, "How To Edit": https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/HowToEdit, which has a link to page "Create New Pages": https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/CreateNewPages Try it! Create a page. If you don't want it to stay up, then delete it: https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/DeletedPage And there's a "Sand Box" page, where you can try out how to write/edit different things, to get the appearance you want. https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/SandBox ___ No need for anyone to email the wiki maintainer and ask him for anything. About the only thing I email him for is if I think there's some kind of problem with the site, e.g., the server needs to be rebooted. > > What's the return value of evaluating the expression > > (funcall > > (lambda (x) (funcall x x)) > > (lambda (x) (funcall x x))) >=20 > I don't know! :O > What is it? Enter (=EB x.xx)(=EB x.xx) here: https://lambdacalc.io/