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From: David Masterson <dsmasterson@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: use-package :after ??
Date: Thu, 11 May 2023 23:54:06 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <SJ0PR03MB5455AA4FF61F0B88DD0C6689A2759@SJ0PR03MB5455.namprd03.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83mt2a3xap.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 12 May 2023 08:59:10 +0300")

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> From: David Masterson <dsmasterson@gmail.com>
>> Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
>> Date: Thu, 11 May 2023 14:24:08 -0700
>> 
>> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> 
>> > And why does it make thing more complicated?  If package FOO should be
>> > loaded after BAR, and BAR should be loaded after BAZ, then the order
>> > I'd expect should be: BAZ, then BAR, then FOO.  Right?
>> 
>> Yes. Will that be handled properly by the following (with global
>> deferred loading)?
>> 
>> (use-package foo :after bar
>>  :config (foo-setup)
>>  )
>> (use-package bar :after baz
>>  # :demand t
>> )
>> (use-package baz)
>> 
>> In particular, use-package will ensure foo-setup is called after foo is
>> loaded, right? If I uncommented the :demand, should/would that make a
>> difference?
>
> I don't think it would make a difference, but why on earth are you
> using :demand there?  It makes no sense to me.

It's a made up example to ask what would happen if one (or more) of the
interdependent packages is demand loaded while the others are deferred.
Via the :after, does the demand load of bar force baz and foo to load?
If not, is that a problem?

> In any case, if there's something unclear here, the problem might be
> with the description of :demand, not with :after -- the node "Forcing
> loading" says :demand is overridden by :defer, but says nothing about
> :after.

Possibly, but the above (made up) example was an attempt to determine if
:after might effect when the loads occur due to a side effect. Perhaps
this side effect might be important in certain cases.

Oh, that Info node says :demand is overridden by :defer, but docstring
for use-package-always-defer says assume :defer unless :demand is used.

-- 
David Masterson



  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-12  6:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-08  0:05 use-package :after ?? David Masterson
2023-05-08  2:44 ` Ruijie Yu via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2023-05-08  4:05   ` David Masterson
2023-05-08  4:25     ` Ruijie Yu via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2023-05-08  5:20       ` David Masterson
2023-05-08 12:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-10 23:56   ` David Masterson
2023-05-11  3:24     ` David Masterson
2023-05-11  6:14       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-11 21:24         ` David Masterson
2023-05-12  1:18           ` Ruijie Yu via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2023-05-12  6:33             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-12  6:38               ` Emanuel Berg
2023-05-12  5:59           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-12  6:54             ` David Masterson [this message]
2023-05-12  7:22               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-15  6:03                 ` David Masterson
2023-05-15 11:36                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-15 22:19                     ` David Masterson
2023-05-16 16:16                       ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                 ` <87pm72m8rc.fsf@penguin>
2023-05-15  6:16                   ` David Masterson
2023-05-15 11:42                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-15 22:27                       ` David Masterson
2023-05-16 16:19                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-16 20:44                           ` David Masterson
2023-05-17  1:40                             ` David Masterson
2023-05-17 11:42                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-17 20:30                               ` David Masterson
2023-05-18 10:36                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-18 12:41                                   ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-05-19  2:40                                     ` David Masterson
2023-05-19  3:03                                   ` David Masterson
2023-05-11  5:54     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-11 22:04       ` David Masterson
2023-05-12  6:14         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-12  6:31           ` Emanuel Berg
2023-05-12  6:56           ` David Masterson

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