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Some features were > borrowed from XEmacs, but only as far as the specification, behavior, > and UX are concerned; no code was taken, AFAIR. My memory is faulty as well. I remember JamieZ wanting to get the Lucid Emacs code into Gnu Emacs and Stallman having a problem with (IIRC) the proprietariness of it, but the details were too "in the weeds" for me to follow. I thought there was a "meeting of minds" (of a sort) that allowed the Lucid code to be used to some degree, but I suppose your recollection is more proper. --=20 David Masterson