From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Herb Martin" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: MS Windows "Alt-Menu" support Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2003 02:21:38 GMT Organization: Road Runner - Texas Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1060223526 8338 80.91.224.253 (7 Aug 2003 02:32:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 02:32:06 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 07 04:32:27 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19kaZn-0005dm-00 for ; Thu, 07 Aug 2003 04:32:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19kaXo-0000bQ-FT for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2003 22:30:24 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!elnk-nf2-pas!elnk-pas-nf1!newsfeed.earthlink.net!cyclone.socal.rr.com!news-west.rr.com!news.rr.com!cyclone.austin.rr.com!twister.austin.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 34 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.68.35.132 Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com Original-X-Trace: twister.austin.rr.com 1060222898 66.68.35.132 (Wed, 06 Aug 2003 21:21:38 CDT) Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 21:21:38 CDT Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:115708 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:11627 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:11627 [I am a "macro editor kind of guy going way back but have always ended up giving up on Windows Emacs do to inconsistencies in the user interface by have finally made a rule to USE IT, until it seems natural -- and change only what I must from the defaults at first.] Obviously Alt-F File, Alt-H Help, etc., conflict with other Meta key sequences. How have others solved this issue (beside just adapting as I miss my Alt-F Save file etc.) Several options I am considering: 1) Use (this has always been an alternative to Alt-key) (requires much retraining of my hand and brain but might be best since it will continue to work on OTHER Windows systems.) 2) Make up another key sequence, e.g., "Ctrl-Alt etc" for the Win-menu keys. 3) Redefine all the Alt-keys for emacs (worse than above probably) 4) Use the Esc-key meta sequence and get the Alt-key sequence back for Windows menus Something else? What do those of you who use MS Windows habitually and love Emacs do or recommend that you have seen work for someone? And if you know of a ready made solution please let me know. (Please note that I am NOT talking about basic CUA functionality as that is working just fine.) 4) Find another lead-in (a la F10) for the menu keys