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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	"help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
Subject: RE: [External] : display-buffer-alist actions
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2021 16:22:10 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <SA2PR10MB44745D1891F18B2BD2DFF01AF39E9@SA2PR10MB4474.namprd10.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvim6gi5z2.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

> > My complaint is that we don't also provide some
> > simple to use constructs for simple use cases.
> >
> > But I do appreciate that it's still supported.
> > I hope it will continue to be so.  And I still
> > have hopes that the deprecation will be lifted
> > from it someday.  Users are in general unaware
> > of it now (it was removed from the manual etc.),
> > even though it's very good for the simple use
> > cases it handles.
> 
> I don't think keeping those vars around is the
> right solution (because those special-display*
> vars make the overall system more complex).
>
> Better would be to provide new ways to do the
> same, which are just as easy&simple but which
> rely on `display-buffer-alist`.

Apparently it's not "easy&simple" to provide new
ways to do the same, using `display-buffer-alist'.

That's the problem.  (Addition of such replacement,
just-as-easy&simple ways welcome...)

`display-buffer-alist' is indeed super-complex,
and it does let you configure many buffer-display
possibilities - even arcane ones.  But apparently
not these simple possibilities.

While waiting for the New, Miraculous, Easy&Simple
ways to get such easy&simple behavior, how about
we UN-deprecate this important feature that Just
Works, and put it back in the manual?
___

Zoom meetings provide lots of flexibility over
getting together physically, but who would think
the _addition_ of Zoom would be a good reason to
deprecate physical get-togethers?
___

 special-display-buffer-names
 special-display-frame-alist
 special-display-function
 special-display-regexps

Every one of those now has a big sign out front:

  "use `display-buffer-alist' instead"

And yet that's apparently not possible or
straightforward.  Or if it really _is_, then
please use `display-buffer-alist' to implement
easy&simple ways to get equivalent behavior.

Hasn't been done so far.  Yet we tell users to do it.



  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-25 16:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-24 17:44 display-buffer-alist actions Eric S Fraga
2021-02-24 19:52 ` Joost Kremers
2021-02-24 20:08   ` Joost Kremers
2021-02-24 21:08     ` TRS-80
2021-02-24 20:57   ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-02-25 16:25   ` Eric S Fraga
2021-02-25 20:40     ` Garjola Dindi
2021-02-24 21:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-25 16:34   ` Eric S Fraga
2021-02-25 16:51     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-26  9:43       ` Eric S Fraga
2021-02-25  0:00 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-02-25  4:28   ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-02-25  7:00     ` Drew Adams
2021-02-25 14:26       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-25 16:22         ` Drew Adams [this message]
2021-02-25 16:36     ` Eric S Fraga
2021-02-25 16:27   ` Eric S Fraga

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