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envelope-from=drew.adams@oracle.com; helo=aserp2130.oracle.com X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:128050 Archived-At: > I hope I'm not oversimplifying, but doesn't this demonstrate the > problem with third-party code when it attempt to bind maps or commands by > default? Default keybindings can be safely overridden (I myself have > done so for multiple keys C-x C-r, C-x u, M-u/l/c, M-/, ...), so as > Dmitry says, the users may override project.el's map or move it > somewhere else, as long as a package like bookmark+ does not insist on > a specific prefix? I am not familiar with bookmark+, so maybe I am > missing something... Users can always override _any_ keybindings. This is not about user bindings. It's about default Emacs bindings and 3rd-party code.