From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Paul Edwards" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: simple editor required Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 09:58:09 GMT Organization: BigPond Internet Services (http://www.bigpond.net.au) Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <8465nduadj.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> <5lfzmgbrio.fsf@rum.cs.yale.edu> <84el1zcze6.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> <841xxzto54.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> <5lu1aqcev2.fsf@rum.cs.yale.edu> <5lvfv4bsep.fsf@rum.cs.yale.edu> <%BWHa.584$H5.7401@news-server.bigpond.net.au> <84vfv3y9ha.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> <8465n1983n.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1056103270 8287 80.91.224.249 (20 Jun 2003 10:01:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 10:01:10 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 20 12:01:07 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19TIh2-00026d-00 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 12:00:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19TIh7-0007Fj-OB for gnu-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 06:00:33 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed-east.nntpserver.com!nntpserver.com!news.sprintnetops.net!lon-transit.news.telstra.net!news.telstra.net!news-server.bigpond.net.au!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 47 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 144.132.167.28 Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@bigpond.net.au Original-X-Trace: news-server.bigpond.net.au 1056103089 144.132.167.28 (Fri, 20 Jun 2003 19:58:09 EST) Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 19:58:09 EST Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:114601 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:11093 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:11093 "Kai Großjohann" wrote in message news:8465n1983n.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de... > "Paul Edwards" writes: > > > Ok, it is the key I am pressing then (near ). > > But when Emacs is reporting DEL, it doesn't mean it just > > saw ascii 127, it means it saw a backspace (C-h). > > Huh? What does C-h l say after you hit whatever key it is that Emacs > reports as DEL? DEL ESC x h e l p RET l Note that the first key I hit was the (next to ). > (Is Emacs reporting DEL when you hit ?) Yep! > It is possible that normal-erase-is-backspace has an influence, here, I'm on emacs 20.7.1 which doesn't have that. > and that it is set to the wrong value in your Emacs. (The variable > normal-erase-is-backspace should not be set via setq, if you want to > use Lisp, use the function normal-erase-is-backspace-mode.) > > > Incidentally, people are always referring to "press C-h then xxx", > > but of course I have remapped C-h to be backspace, I mean, C-h is > > backspace, and we all know what backspace does. So I duly replace > > C-h with Esc x help. It seems a very surprising key binding to me. > > Whee. Does work as a help key? Yes, it does! Although seems a bit different from M-x help, the latter comes up with the menu straight away, the former suggests I press "?" to get it. > Maybe it's the normal-erase-is-backspace thing. If not, then I'm > flabbergasted. Everything to do with backspace/delete is fine, just that help I have to (now) use F1 instead of C-h. This is not a problem at all. BFN. Paul.