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From: Heime via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: Arash Esbati <arash@gnu.org>
Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Mode hooks for latex and tex files
Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2024 16:15:23 +0000	[thread overview]
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On Tuesday, December 3rd, 2024 at 3:58 AM, Heime <heimeborgia@protonmail.com> wrote:

> On Tuesday, December 3rd, 2024 at 1:17 AM, Arash Esbati arash@gnu.org wrote:
> 
> > Heime via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org writes:
> > 
> > > What are the mode hooks for latex and tex files?
> > 
> > It depends.
> > 
> > > Using latex and tex is currently very non-intuitive, with things
> > > like LaTex-mode, TeX-mode. This mixed capitalisation is all too
> > > confusing because ordinary users see only a latex or tex configuration
> > > for their modes, rather than the nuances of capitalisation changes.
> > 
> > The only point you have to consider is that there are 2 major modes for
> > editing plain-tex and latex files:
> > 
> > • The modes bundled with Emacs (in tex-mode.el, do
> > 'M-x locate-library RET tex-mode RET') and
> > 
> > • the modes provided by AUCTeX (a package you must install from ELPA
> > first).
> > 
> > If you're using the former, use `plain-tex-mode-hook' or` latex-mode-hook', and with the latter, set `plain-TeX-mode-hook' or` LaTeX-mode-hook'.
> > 
> > `tex-mode-hook' and` TeX-mode-hook' are sort of meta-modes and not
> > intended for end users, so don't set them.
> > 
> > Best, Arash
> 
> 
> AUCTeX introduces unnecessary complexity by deviating from standard
> naming conventions for tool-related modes. Instead of adhering to the
> typical package-prefixed predicate style (e.g., auctex-tex-mode and
> auctex-latex-mode), it opts for inconsistent and unintuitive names.
> 
> The use of plain-tex-mode instead of a unified tex-mode (as seen with
> latex-mode) adds further redundancy. Meta-modes not intended for
> direct user interaction should avoid using intuitive and general names
> like tex-mode, reserving such names for user-facing
> functionality. This inconsistency is unique to AUCTeX; other language
> tools, such as for C, avoid analogous confusion—there is no equivalent
> plain-c-mode.


I am also interested in the made hooks.  Would the built-in be plain-tex-mode-hook
and latex-mode-hook ?  Is there also tex-mode-hook ?



  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-02 16:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-30 19:55 Mode hooks for latex and tex files Heime via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2024-12-01 14:43 ` Jean Louis
2024-12-01 14:58   ` Heime via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2024-12-01 21:20     ` Heime via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2024-12-02 10:17       ` Jean Louis
2024-12-02 11:13 ` Joel Reicher
2024-12-02 13:17 ` Arash Esbati
2024-12-02 15:58   ` Heime via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2024-12-02 16:15     ` Heime via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor [this message]
2024-12-02 20:17     ` Arash Esbati
2024-12-02 20:29       ` Heime via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2024-12-02 20:38         ` Arash Esbati
2024-12-02 20:44         ` Heime via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor

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