From: Hugo Wolf <hwolf@deutsches.lieder.net>
Subject: Re: installing emacs and X11 on OS X
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:45:36 GMT [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Qjav9.133781$md1.27595@sccrnsc03> (raw)
In-Reply-To: mailman.1035784882.23705.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
In article <mailman.1035784882.23705.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>, Eli
Zaretskii wrote:
> If there's a difference between these two configurations, there should be
> a way to distinguish between them.
There are actually three runtime gui environments in osx.
Distinguishing them is very easy -- window-system does it in a clean,
reliable and consistent way, and as an added bonus works in both
xemacs and gnuemacs.
> Doesn't system-configuration fit the
> bill? or maybe system-configuration-options?
system-configuration has the same value for any emacs running in osx,
so it obviously can't be used to make any distinctions at
all. system-configuration-options can currently distinguish in a very
ugly way between an emacs that was _built_ with mac-windowing support
and one that wasn't but of course says nothing at all about whether or
not it's actually _running_ in that window system at any given time.
By definition, build-time options can't work as a way to discover
runtime distinctions. This or that individual runtime feature doesn't
work either. To think about it that way is to misunderstand the nature
of a gui environment. What we're talking about here is not at the
level of "do I have color available". It's at the level of "do I want
to follow Mac l&f".
You're obviously a very knowledgeable emacs guy and even you don't
seem to be able to find anything other than window-system that works
for this. Doesn't that tell you something?
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2002-10-28 12:45 ` Hugo Wolf [this message]
2002-10-28 18:18 ` installing emacs and X11 on OS X Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <mailman.1035832709.18867.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2002-10-28 20:15 ` Schone Mullerin
2002-10-29 5:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-10-28 21:25 ` Thomas F. Burdick
2002-10-29 5:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-10-29 15:41 ` Stefan Monnier <foo@acm.com>
2002-10-29 19:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <mailman.1035924479.14908.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2002-10-29 20:57 ` Stefan Monnier <foo@acm.com>
[not found] <mailman.1035870384.15595.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2002-10-29 13:42 ` Hugo Wolf
2002-10-29 17:14 ` Kevin Rodgers
2002-10-29 19:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <mailman.1035924328.7472.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2002-10-29 21:17 ` Schone Mullerin
[not found] <mailman.1035438509.9019.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2002-10-24 6:59 ` John Paul Wallington
[not found] <mailman.1035334713.26558.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2002-10-23 8:54 ` Joseph Kiniry
2002-10-23 12:04 ` Michael Hudson
2002-10-23 12:14 ` Piet van Oostrum
2002-10-23 13:01 ` Hugo Wolf
2002-10-23 14:08 ` John Paul Wallington
2002-10-24 5:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-10-24 12:43 ` Hugo Wolf
2002-10-24 17:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <mailman.1035484120.27029.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2002-10-24 20:01 ` Schone Mullerin
2002-10-26 7:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <mailman.1035620182.18482.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2002-10-26 14:39 ` Hugo Wolf
2002-10-26 14:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <mailman.1035645140.22359.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2002-10-26 21:41 ` Hugo Wolf
2002-10-26 21:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <mailman.1035672257.29530.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2002-10-27 15:07 ` Hugo Wolf
2002-10-27 15:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-10-27 16:14 ` Piet van Oostrum
2002-10-27 19:47 ` Hugo Wolf
2002-10-27 19:13 ` Thomas F. Burdick
2002-10-27 19:53 ` Hugo Wolf
2002-10-28 6:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <mailman.1035737630.1161.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2002-10-27 20:08 ` Hugo Wolf
2002-10-27 20:33 ` Chris Lott
2002-10-23 12:53 ` Hugo Wolf
2002-10-23 0:53 Hugues Joly
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