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From: Heime <heimeborgia@protonmail.com>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: Heime via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
	<help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
Subject: RE: [External] : Continue cycling from a particular element in collection
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2023 21:45:06 +0000	[thread overview]
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------- Original Message -------
On Wednesday, August 23rd, 2023 at 9:27 AM, Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> wrote:


> > It is a deficiency on the part of completing-read that makes
> > INITIAL-INPUT unaware of COLLECTION and of REQUIRE-MATCH.
> 
> 
> M-x report-emacs-bug
> 
> But specify clearly what you have in mind,
> that is, what you think you want.
> ___
> 
> INITIAL-INPUT is text to put in the minibuffer
> at the outset. It need not have any connection
> with anything. It need not ever be entered or
> even edited. It can be just a message "Happy
> Birthday!", if you like.
> 
> INITIAL-INPUT has nothing, a priori, to do with
> completion, hence with COLLECTION or with
> REQUIRE-MATCH.

That's its design, but the design is too primitive
and only works in isolation to everything else.

Suppose you want INITIAL-VALUE to be aware of COLLECTION and
of REQUIRE-MATCH.  You can't.  Suppose you want INITIAL-VALUE
to match entry in collection.  Then suppose INITIAL-VALUE is
identical to first element in collection, and you want to skip 
the first entry in collection that would currently show the same
string as INITIAL-VALUE.  You can't.  A half baked implementation
that now some want it to do even more things.  

First one has to make a good job and do it well before complicating
things further.
 
 
> Read the doc. Experiment. Try to understand
> how each arg can be used in different ways.



  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-22 21:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-22  7:39 Continue cycling from a particular element in collection Heime
2023-08-22 16:04 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2023-08-22 20:41   ` Heime
2023-08-22 21:04     ` Drew Adams
2023-08-22 21:11       ` Heime
2023-08-22 21:21         ` Heime
2023-08-22 21:27           ` Drew Adams
2023-08-22 21:45             ` Heime [this message]
2023-08-22 21:23         ` Drew Adams
2023-08-22 21:20 ` Drew Adams

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