From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: NTEmacs, German, ispell Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 07:48:22 +0200 (IST) Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1043041742 6291 80.91.224.249 (20 Jan 2003 05:49:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 05:49:02 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18aUnq-0001cn-00 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 06:48:59 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18aUnz-0007Ua-0A for gnu-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 00:49:07 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18aUnf-0007BS-00 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 00:48:47 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18aUnc-00073e-00 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 00:48:45 -0500 Original-Received: from is.elta.co.il ([199.203.121.2]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18aUnZ-0006sH-00 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 00:48:42 -0500 Original-Received: from is (is [199.203.121.2]) by is.elta.co.il (8.9.3/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA21689 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 07:48:22 +0200 (IST) X-Sender: eliz@is Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:5731 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:5731 On Sun, 19 Jan 2003, =3D?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=3DF6ren_Vogel?=3D wrote: > > Does it help to visit the file with "C-x RET c latin-1 RET C-x > > C-f" instead of the usual "C-x C-f"? >=20 > No, remains saying eight-bit-graphic and ispell does not work > properly in both cases: defining the coding system or loading from > within a defined one. Strange. What kind of file is that, anyway? What happens if you begin with an empty buffer and then type German words= =20 using those characters--does Ispell work then? > Hm, maybe emacs in fact has _no_ problem > with my stuff but ispell does so? The problem is that Emacs doesn't recognize characters such as u-umlaut=20 as Latin-1 characters. (That's why it says eight-bit-graphic instead.) =20 Ispell is set up in your locale for Latin-1 characters, so it cannot work= =20 with other characters. > And how about the mystery that > ispell suggests exactly the same word "m=FCssen" but does not (or > does -- that't not to observe) replace the "misspelled" but > remains saying: wrong. It's not the same word: the character code of what is displayed as=20 u-umlaut is different. The illusion that the words are identical is=20 because both characters are (by default) displayed the same. Try=20 accepting Ispell's correction, and then do a "C-u C-x =3D" on u-umlaut in= =20 the replaced word, and you will see the difference. > Perhaps I should try to set up the ultimate > options to work with a German keyboard on WinXP-text-files What ``ultimate options'' are you talking about? What do you have now in= =20 your .emacs?